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I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

by yahway 1y ago

MaxHoppersGhost 1y ago
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0_____0 1y ago
There's a little button called "hide" next to each post on the frontpage.
DoktorDelta 1y ago
You cannot "get away" from politics. Burying your head in the sand will not insulate you from what is happening.
- darkmighty 1y ago
  Plato: "One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." I don't love the phrasing of inferiors, but at least evil certainly applies. (Well thought out, well informed) Politics is a duty not a luxury.
  - ThrowawayR2 1y ago
    What is the point of encouraging more people to participate in politics when that increases the chances of your party losing? From a relatively recent analysis of polls at https://archive.is/kbwom https://archive.is/kbwom "The reality is if all registered voters had turned out, then Donald Trump would’ve won the popular vote by 5 points [instead of 1.7 points]. So, I think that a 'we need to turn up the temperature and mobilize everyone' strategy would’ve made things worse." That's from a Democratic analyst, not a Republican one. The Republicans are rubbing their hands together and cackling every time one of you claims "everything is political" or "politics is a duty" because it just helps them win elections.
tanepiper 1y ago
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- hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
  And it's their only comment. They went through all the trouble of creating an account to write a comment about how much they hate politics on a political post, when they could have just hit the "hide" link that's on every post.
  - Grimblewald 1y ago
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SkyeCA 1y ago
I am honestly so done with American politics infecting every single part of the English internet. Thankfully there is usually some refuge for those of us who speak more than one language.
- icar 1y ago
  I'm interested. Any examples? I feel I'm on the same page as you.
boredpeter 1y ago
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whyenot 1y ago
Why are you posting this on some brand new dummy account? If you feel so strongly about this, post your opinion on your regular account.
Grimblewald 1y ago
when it doesn't impact you, or your immediate future, it is fair to steer clear and consider it noise - but this is a textbook historical moment. This isn't cheap talk. These are real and national trajectory altering events. What happens in these coming months defines a major historical event for the USA, which sets it's course for the coming century. It may become a country which is directly hostile to you. If you are American and are ignoring this, then it is no different to getting mad your family is wanting to talk about the raging kitchen fire that is unaddressed and escalating because "so what, the stove top has fire sometimes, it's a gas heater, that's normal" which, sure, would be right, but right now the entire wall is ablaze. You cannot ignore this one, even those of us in other countries cannot ignore this one, as we have to reconsider our alliance with a country that reasonably one can assume is in the middle of falling to a fascist regime. This is NOT run of the mill politics. This is genuinely about the collective future of the Anglosphere.
mindslight 1y ago
Go start a website for the tech scene in your country that presumably isn't in the process of being taken over by fascists? Us Americans need all the avenues to organize we can get. And it's even topical here - this surveillance industry that grew out of many tech startups is itself at ground zero of this fascist takeover, both boosting extremist disinformation to drive "engagement" and also creating a crop of newly-minted elites with the audacity to kick over the whole apple cart of our American way of life.
saubeidl 1y ago
To be "unpolitical" is a political statement in itself.
const_cast 1y ago
Literally just don't click on the post. I don't understand - I look at the front page and 99% of it is not politics. So, you willingly and intentionally honed-in on the 1% you don't like... just so you can complain? I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think that's normal behavior.

I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

by yahway 1y ago

I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

MaxHoppersGhost 1y ago

[flagged]

0_____0 1y ago

There's a little button called "hide" next to each post on the frontpage.

DoktorDelta 1y ago

You cannot "get away" from politics. Burying your head in the sand will not insulate you from what is happening.

darkmighty 1y ago
Plato: "One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." I don't love the phrasing of inferiors, but at least evil certainly applies. (Well thought out, well informed) Politics is a duty not a luxury.
- ThrowawayR2 1y ago
  What is the point of encouraging more people to participate in politics when that increases the chances of your party losing? From a relatively recent analysis of polls at https://archive.is/kbwom https://archive.is/kbwom "The reality is if all registered voters had turned out, then Donald Trump would’ve won the popular vote by 5 points [instead of 1.7 points]. So, I think that a 'we need to turn up the temperature and mobilize everyone' strategy would’ve made things worse." That's from a Democratic analyst, not a Republican one. The Republicans are rubbing their hands together and cackling every time one of you claims "everything is political" or "politics is a duty" because it just helps them win elections.

tanepiper 1y ago

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hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
And it's their only comment. They went through all the trouble of creating an account to write a comment about how much they hate politics on a political post, when they could have just hit the "hide" link that's on every post.
- Grimblewald 1y ago
  [flagged]

SkyeCA 1y ago

I am honestly so done with American politics infecting every single part of the English internet. Thankfully there is usually some refuge for those of us who speak more than one language.

icar 1y ago
I'm interested. Any examples? I feel I'm on the same page as you.

boredpeter 1y ago

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whyenot 1y ago

Why are you posting this on some brand new dummy account? If you feel so strongly about this, post your opinion on your regular account.

Grimblewald 1y ago

when it doesn't impact you, or your immediate future, it is fair to steer clear and consider it noise - but this is a textbook historical moment. This isn't cheap talk. These are real and national trajectory altering events. What happens in these coming months defines a major historical event for the USA, which sets it's course for the coming century. It may become a country which is directly hostile to you. If you are American and are ignoring this, then it is no different to getting mad your family is wanting to talk about the raging kitchen fire that is unaddressed and escalating because "so what, the stove top has fire sometimes, it's a gas heater, that's normal" which, sure, would be right, but right now the entire wall is ablaze. You cannot ignore this one, even those of us in other countries cannot ignore this one, as we have to reconsider our alliance with a country that reasonably one can assume is in the middle of falling to a fascist regime. This is NOT run of the mill politics. This is genuinely about the collective future of the Anglosphere.

mindslight 1y ago

Go start a website for the tech scene in your country that presumably isn't in the process of being taken over by fascists? Us Americans need all the avenues to organize we can get. And it's even topical here - this surveillance industry that grew out of many tech startups is itself at ground zero of this fascist takeover, both boosting extremist disinformation to drive "engagement" and also creating a crop of newly-minted elites with the audacity to kick over the whole apple cart of our American way of life.

saubeidl 1y ago

To be "unpolitical" is a political statement in itself.

const_cast 1y ago

Literally just don't click on the post. I don't understand - I look at the front page and 99% of it is not politics. So, you willingly and intentionally honed-in on the 1% you don't like... just so you can complain? I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think that's normal behavior.