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For me it is a great index, much better than all the alternatives. Especially against Google that is now filled with AI and Ads. Sometimes so bad, you really ha

For me it is a great index, much better than all the alternatives. Especially against Google that is now filled with AI and Ads. Sometimes so bad, you really have to scroll down, to get to the first non-Ad link.

maelito 1y ago
But it's not their index. Without Google or bing, they fall.
- greazy 1y ago
  Kagi has its own index https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm... It also uses other indices along Google.
  - M0r13n 1y ago
    It has. But in my experience their own index is rarely used > All results from external indexes. The above is something I see all the time when using Kagi.
    - OJFord 1y ago
      I've never seen that, do I need to turn on a setting to show the indices used or something?
      - M0r13n 1y ago
        It is shown under the search box right before the first result
        OJFord 1y ago
        Ah so it is (on desktop site), thanks. 'test' -> '58% unique Kagi results'; 'test2' -> 'all results from external indexes'.
  - happymellon 1y ago
    I love how transparent they are about everything, and even that they show stats on "most blocked domain". Unsurprisingly it's Pintrest that annoys people the most.
    - miki123211 1y ago
      > unsurprisingly I haven't used Kagi much, but I don't think I've ever seen a single Pinterest result from any other search engine, I barely even know what the thing is for. Is this a US thing? A Kagi quirk specifically?
      - flexagoon 1y ago
        Maybe you just don't really search for images? Pinterest constantly comes up in image search results and then doesn't actually let you view or download the full image until you sign up.
        happymellon 1y ago
        It also removes sources, so that awesome looking bag only comes up as Pintrest pins and not anywhere that actually sells it.
      - happymellon 1y ago
        I am not US based. And to be honest, I don't see as much Pintrest crap as I used to. It may just be that it has fallen out of favour because of its terrible design. But it was a site that basically let you create mood boards from images that you found as your browsed. The big problem with it was that it simply copied the image so if you were looking for anything, Pintrest came up with the images for a product but then had removed all the source so it just flooded search results with uncited references and you couldn't find anything useful. Reverse image searching to find sites thst sold a prpduct became useless.
      - 0xffff2 1y ago
        Possibly a US thing, definitely not a Kagi thing. Useless Pintrest results (especially in image search) that don't actually the thing they pretend to are ubiquitous on Google.
bigfatkitten 1y ago
Google has a powerful commercial incentive to deliver mediocre search performance. If search works well, the result you wanted is in the first spot on page #1. This is a bad outcome for Google. The more follow up searches you run and the more trash you wade through, the more ads you see and the more money Google makes.

maelito 1y ago

But it's not their index. Without Google or bing, they fall.

greazy 1y ago
Kagi has its own index https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm... It also uses other indices along Google.
- M0r13n 1y ago
  It has. But in my experience their own index is rarely used > All results from external indexes. The above is something I see all the time when using Kagi.
  - OJFord 1y ago
    I've never seen that, do I need to turn on a setting to show the indices used or something?
    - M0r13n 1y ago
      It is shown under the search box right before the first result
      - OJFord 1y ago
        Ah so it is (on desktop site), thanks. 'test' -> '58% unique Kagi results'; 'test2' -> 'all results from external indexes'.
- happymellon 1y ago
  I love how transparent they are about everything, and even that they show stats on "most blocked domain". Unsurprisingly it's Pintrest that annoys people the most.
  - miki123211 1y ago
    > unsurprisingly I haven't used Kagi much, but I don't think I've ever seen a single Pinterest result from any other search engine, I barely even know what the thing is for. Is this a US thing? A Kagi quirk specifically?
    - flexagoon 1y ago
      Maybe you just don't really search for images? Pinterest constantly comes up in image search results and then doesn't actually let you view or download the full image until you sign up.
      - happymellon 1y ago
        It also removes sources, so that awesome looking bag only comes up as Pintrest pins and not anywhere that actually sells it.
    - happymellon 1y ago
      I am not US based. And to be honest, I don't see as much Pintrest crap as I used to. It may just be that it has fallen out of favour because of its terrible design. But it was a site that basically let you create mood boards from images that you found as your browsed. The big problem with it was that it simply copied the image so if you were looking for anything, Pintrest came up with the images for a product but then had removed all the source so it just flooded search results with uncited references and you couldn't find anything useful. Reverse image searching to find sites thst sold a prpduct became useless.
    - 0xffff2 1y ago
      Possibly a US thing, definitely not a Kagi thing. Useless Pintrest results (especially in image search) that don't actually the thing they pretend to are ubiquitous on Google.

bigfatkitten 1y ago

Google has a powerful commercial incentive to deliver mediocre search performance. If search works well, the result you wanted is in the first spot on page #1. This is a bad outcome for Google. The more follow up searches you run and the more trash you wade through, the more ads you see and the more money Google makes.