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Grav isn't a static site generator though like this project is, and requires PHP I believe?

by lenova 1y ago

ivanmontillam 1y ago
I was singling out the idea that a YAML front matter with Markdown is not specially innovative or attractive as a feature. In fact, YAML is pretty hard to use to be advertised as user-friendly[0] front matter that can be edited by hand. -- [0]: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/yaml-tips https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/yaml-tips
cluckindan 1y ago
This project is marketing itself as a CMS which it is not. I would even say vanilla Wordpress without plugins isn’t a CMS, even though it does come close. It’s more like a blog management system with some extra bells and whistles.
- lenova 1y ago
  I'm confused why you wouldn't consider this (or vanilla Wordpress) a CMS? Are not both of these products, um, content management systems?
  - cluckindan 1y ago
    In which way does a generator manage content? The user manages content on the file system / git. A static site does not manage anything. Wordpress is really more of a blog management system with page editing features. It doesn’t work well with different types of content, it’s geared for articles and ”pages”. How would you use it to build a site where a lot of content comes from some other background system, say NewsML feeds for example? It is possible, but you can only import the content as posts, and you only have one schema for what a post contains.
    - lenova 1y ago
      I think you should re-read the OP's original link again. Aether is not just an SSG, and its admin interface provides a CMS interface. And I'm afraid your definition of a CMS is your own, and not the consensus. A CMS doesn't need to consume external sources, it can be self contained content. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system
      - cluckindan 1y ago
        ”The integrated static site generator isn't bolted on, it's fundamental to the design.” A Markdown editor in an admin UI does not promote the system to a CMS, although I could be skewed towards enterprise systems here…

Grav isn't a static site generator though like this project is, and requires PHP I believe?

by lenova 1y ago

Grav isn't a static site generator though like this project is, and requires PHP I believe?

I was singling out the idea that a YAML front matter with Markdown is not specially innovative or attractive as a feature. In fact, YAML is pretty hard to use to be advertised as user-friendly[0] front matter that can be edited by hand. -- [0]: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/yaml-tips https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/yaml-tips

cluckindan 1y ago

This project is marketing itself as a CMS which it is not. I would even say vanilla Wordpress without plugins isn’t a CMS, even though it does come close. It’s more like a blog management system with some extra bells and whistles.

lenova 1y ago
I'm confused why you wouldn't consider this (or vanilla Wordpress) a CMS? Are not both of these products, um, content management systems?
- cluckindan 1y ago
  In which way does a generator manage content? The user manages content on the file system / git. A static site does not manage anything. Wordpress is really more of a blog management system with page editing features. It doesn’t work well with different types of content, it’s geared for articles and ”pages”. How would you use it to build a site where a lot of content comes from some other background system, say NewsML feeds for example? It is possible, but you can only import the content as posts, and you only have one schema for what a post contains.
  - lenova 1y ago
    I think you should re-read the OP's original link again. Aether is not just an SSG, and its admin interface provides a CMS interface. And I'm afraid your definition of a CMS is your own, and not the consensus. A CMS doesn't need to consume external sources, it can be self contained content. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system
    - cluckindan 1y ago
      ”The integrated static site generator isn't bolted on, it's fundamental to the design.” A Markdown editor in an admin UI does not promote the system to a CMS, although I could be skewed towards enterprise systems here…