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Cursor recently lost me as a customer. Too many updates that disturb my workflow and productivity, no easy way to roll back versions, super sparse changelogs, l
by asar 1y ago
Cursor recently lost me as a customer. Too many updates that disturb my workflow and productivity, no easy way to roll back versions, super sparse changelogs, lots of magic in context building, really untransparent pricing on max mode. I recently made the switch to Claude Code on the Max plan and I couldn't be happier. The only real thing I'm missing is the diff view across files, but I assume it's just a matter of time until that's properly implemented in Zed or VSCode.
- 1ucky 1y agoSince last week it’s possible to use Claude Code in the VSCode terminal where it now automatically installs a plugin to display the diffs.
- asar 1y agothanks! i never set this up properly. did it now though, really cool!
- lopatin 1y agoI feel unstoppable with Claude Code Max. I never thought I'd pay $200 per month for any developer tool, yet here we are, and I also couldn't be happier with it.
- deadbabe 1y agoWould you pay $400?
- esafak 1y agoDon't give people ideas.
- deadbabe 1y agoOther professions pay a lot for their tools, and developers are loaded with cash.
- sunaookami 1y ago>developers are loaded with cash Maybe in the US? I will never pay 100$ for a subscription and I despise that people normalized it by even buying this stuff instead of saying "no, that's way too expensive".
- artursapek 1y agoWhy not? If you charge $50/hr and it saves you even just two hours a month, it’s a profitable trade.
- Oreb 1y agoThat “if” doesn’t apply to all of us, though. Not everybody is paid by the hour. I’d love to try something like Claude code, but $100 per month is way too expensive for me, and it probably wouldn’t even give me a single extra dollar of income. I think I’ll just wait for the time when local LLMs will be good enough to be a viable alternative.
- deadbabe 1y agoBy the time you can run good enough local LLMs without splurging on sufficiently powerful hardware, those LLMs will look like toys compared to whatever cloud based LLMs are available.
- artursapek 1y agoI'm not paid by the hour, it's just basic math on what my time is worth
- deadbabe 1y agoWell bucko it’s time to open your wallet. There’s creatives out there who spend at least $1000/month in subscriptions for tools, but without those tools they could never do most of the work they do. And some who buy physical gear like photographs and videographers pay even way more than that for equipment. Soon it will be the same for developers. Developers really are a spoiled bunch when it comes to paying for things, many will balk at paying $99/year just to publish stuff on an App Store. Everyone just wants free open source stuff. As expectations on developer productivity rises, you will be paying for these AI tools no matter how expensive they get, or you will just be gentrified out of the industry. The choice is yours.
- lopatin 1y agoThat's a great question. Probably not. IDK. I'm also only paying this much to maintain momentum on a personal project. I also know in a year, these LLM products will change drastically, pricing tiers will transform, etc.. So I can't predict what will happen in a year but things will probably be cheaper. Edit: On the other hand, the state of the art tools will also be much better in a year, so might keep that high price point! Am I rationalizing my purchase? Possibly. If I'm not using it daily, I will cancel it, I promise :)
- deadbabe 1y agoI think there is definitely room to price AI tools way higher. Developers are being slowly boiled like frogs right now. Getting addicted to AI tools to the point they can’t work without them, that’s when you raise the price.
- lopatin 1y agoI see it as an investment into my future. I was able to make progress on a personal project with Claude Code which I failed at using other tools. Yes, I will, and apparently have, paid multiple hundreds of dollars to get the project release ready. But I definitely need to keep in mind that I'm not going to at that velocity all the time, which would make the $200 price point not justifiable long term.
- ed_mercer 1y agoCan you elaborate? How is it better than Cursor?
- koakuma-chan 1y agoTry it
- remixff2400 1y agoI just started with it, so still getting my feet wet, but it's been better than any other tool at really grokking my codebase and understanding my intent. The workflow feels better than a strict IDE integration, but it does get pricey really quickly, and you pretty much need at least the $100 Max subscription. Luckily, it should be coming with the regular $20 Pro subscription in the near future, so it should be easier to demo and get a feel for it without having to jump in all the way.
- nojs 1y ago> The only real thing I'm missing is the diff view across files You can commit checkpoints prior to each major prompt and use any IDE’s builtin visual diff versus last commit. Then just rebase when the task is done
- hn_throw2025 1y agoI have a workflow that also uses micro commits. I keep my older JetBrains IDE open at the same time. Using feature branches liberally, any successful interaction between me and the LLM in Cursor results in a micro commit. I use the Cursor AI ‘generate commit message’ for speed. Every so often, I switch over to Jetbrains to use Git Interactive Rebase to tidy up the commits, as the diff viewer is unsurpassed. Then those micro commits get renamed, reordered, squash merged as required. All possible from Git CLI of course, but the Jetbrains Git experience is fantastic IMHO. All their free community edition IDEs have this.
- h2782 1y agoThe current max pricing is actually as transparent as it has ever been: It's 20% more to use Max than the APIs directly. I am not sure if your feedback is outdated/based on a previous version of reality?
- asar 1y agoYes, they've updated the docs since last week, I guess. Before, it didn't mention the 20% markup.