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You ever thought there’s more to life than work lol. Maybe humans can approach a new standard of living…

darth_avocado 1y ago
I’m yet to be convinced that if majority of the humans are out of work, the government will be able to take care of them and allow them to “pursue their calling”. Hunger games is a more believable outcome to me.
- johnbenoe 1y ago
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  - JKCalhoun 1y ago
    To the degree we feel capable, I suspect many of us are doing "what we can". The worst it gets of course, the more each of us will feel capable of.
codr7 1y ago
Excellent choice of words there: new standard. I'm sure we are, but it doesn't look like an improvement for most people.
- johnbenoe 1y ago
  Not yet at least, but there’s no stopping this kind of efficiency jump. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial.
  - myko 1y ago
    Maybe, but aren't LLM companies burning cash? The efficiency gains I see from LLMs typically come from agents which perform circular prompts on themselves until they reach some desired outcome (or give up until a human can prod them along). It seems like we'll need to generate a lot more power to support these efficiency gains at scale, and unless that is coming from renewables (and even if it is) that cost may outweigh the gains for a long time.
    - johnbenoe 1y ago
      They’re burning cash at a high rate because of the grand potential, and they are of course keeping some things behind closed doors. I also respect the operative analysis, but the strategical, long-term thinking, is that this will come and it will only speed up everything else.
      - codr7 1y ago
        The grand potential of short sighted profits with no concern for society nor other humans, yes.
  - codr7 1y ago
    I would say anyone who sees that happening is in denial, because all the proof out there points in the opposite direction.
  - codr7 1y ago
    There are also no indications that it's coming. Anyone who assumes so is delusional.
rfrey 1y ago
The most powerful nation on earth isn't even willing to extend basic health care to the masses, nevermind freeing them to pursue a higher calling than enriching billionaires.
JKCalhoun 1y ago
If someone is going to suggest UBI, I wish they could explain to me how Reservations have failed so hard in the U.S.. I think that would be a cautionary tale.
- duderific 1y ago
  Decades and decades of mistreatment are not going to be remedied by some modest handouts. That doesn't mean that UBI as a whole could never work.
  - 9x39 1y ago
    Shouldn't we be able to find at least one pilot or prototype with a lasting success story to build off of before concluding we need to do it on a huge scale?

I’m yet to be convinced that if majority of the humans are out of work, the government will be able to take care of them and allow them to “pursue their calling”. Hunger games is a more believable outcome to me.

johnbenoe 1y ago
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- JKCalhoun 1y ago
  To the degree we feel capable, I suspect many of us are doing "what we can". The worst it gets of course, the more each of us will feel capable of.

codr7 1y ago

Excellent choice of words there: new standard. I'm sure we are, but it doesn't look like an improvement for most people.

johnbenoe 1y ago
Not yet at least, but there’s no stopping this kind of efficiency jump. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial.
- myko 1y ago
  Maybe, but aren't LLM companies burning cash? The efficiency gains I see from LLMs typically come from agents which perform circular prompts on themselves until they reach some desired outcome (or give up until a human can prod them along). It seems like we'll need to generate a lot more power to support these efficiency gains at scale, and unless that is coming from renewables (and even if it is) that cost may outweigh the gains for a long time.
  - johnbenoe 1y ago
    They’re burning cash at a high rate because of the grand potential, and they are of course keeping some things behind closed doors. I also respect the operative analysis, but the strategical, long-term thinking, is that this will come and it will only speed up everything else.
    - codr7 1y ago
      The grand potential of short sighted profits with no concern for society nor other humans, yes.
- codr7 1y ago
  I would say anyone who sees that happening is in denial, because all the proof out there points in the opposite direction.
- codr7 1y ago
  There are also no indications that it's coming. Anyone who assumes so is delusional.

rfrey 1y ago

The most powerful nation on earth isn't even willing to extend basic health care to the masses, nevermind freeing them to pursue a higher calling than enriching billionaires.

JKCalhoun 1y ago

If someone is going to suggest UBI, I wish they could explain to me how Reservations have failed so hard in the U.S.. I think that would be a cautionary tale.

duderific 1y ago
Decades and decades of mistreatment are not going to be remedied by some modest handouts. That doesn't mean that UBI as a whole could never work.
- 9x39 1y ago
  Shouldn't we be able to find at least one pilot or prototype with a lasting success story to build off of before concluding we need to do it on a huge scale?