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The conclusion confuses me. If you don't want to become a vibe coder then STOP USING AI TO WRITE CODE. It's as simple as that.

krapp 1y ago
Unfortunately, it's becoming socially and culturally verboten not to use AI. Soon AI will be so ubiquitous that not using it will be as weird as not having an email address or a cellphone. AI will be one of those things you have to use to exist in modern society. And within the programming/tech sphere, this effect will be magnified significantly because AI isn't just a tool, it's practically a religion and an identity. I agree with you that OP should just not use AI, and in a perfect world where AI was just a thing and not the nexus around which our entire technological civilization, culture and definition of humanity will be shaped, whether we like it or not, because Capitalism Über Alles, that would be an option. However if they want to remain employable and not be seen as a weird Luddite psychopath they'll have to choose how much of their soul to give over to the machine like the rest of us.
- TheMongoose 1y ago
  I did briefly wonder if it was fear of being cancelled for not using AI, but then dismissed that as too crazy to be true. I'm not as bullish on the future of AI as you though. I expect there will soon be a "find out" phase to all this mess, and I look forward to it.
  - krapp 1y ago
    >I expect there will soon be a "find out" phase to all this mess, and I look forward to it. I agree with you, but I don't think it will be soon. There's too much inertia and too much money behind it.
    - TheMongoose 1y ago
      Last week, I saw this https://www.economist.com/business/2025/05/21/welcome-to-the-ai-trough-of-disillusionment https://www.economist.com/business/2025/05/21/welcome-to-the... I disagree that we're in the trough. I think we're just at the start of the downward slope. But I've seen a slight sentiment shift recently.

krapp 1y ago

Unfortunately, it's becoming socially and culturally verboten not to use AI. Soon AI will be so ubiquitous that not using it will be as weird as not having an email address or a cellphone. AI will be one of those things you have to use to exist in modern society. And within the programming/tech sphere, this effect will be magnified significantly because AI isn't just a tool, it's practically a religion and an identity. I agree with you that OP should just not use AI, and in a perfect world where AI was just a thing and not the nexus around which our entire technological civilization, culture and definition of humanity will be shaped, whether we like it or not, because Capitalism Über Alles, that would be an option. However if they want to remain employable and not be seen as a weird Luddite psychopath they'll have to choose how much of their soul to give over to the machine like the rest of us.

TheMongoose 1y ago
I did briefly wonder if it was fear of being cancelled for not using AI, but then dismissed that as too crazy to be true. I'm not as bullish on the future of AI as you though. I expect there will soon be a "find out" phase to all this mess, and I look forward to it.
- krapp 1y ago
  >I expect there will soon be a "find out" phase to all this mess, and I look forward to it. I agree with you, but I don't think it will be soon. There's too much inertia and too much money behind it.
  - TheMongoose 1y ago
    Last week, I saw this https://www.economist.com/business/2025/05/21/welcome-to-the-ai-trough-of-disillusionment https://www.economist.com/business/2025/05/21/welcome-to-the... I disagree that we're in the trough. I think we're just at the start of the downward slope. But I've seen a slight sentiment shift recently.