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MinIO Community version 2.0 is going back to be an object browser only

43 points by itherseed 1y ago

itherseed 1y ago
In a move that reminiscent of the change of Redis, they removed all the functionality of the UI of the community version and pointed to the paid version. From the Changelog: (https://github.com/minio/object-browser/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md https://github.com/minio/object-browser/blob/master/CHANGELO...) "Deprecated support of accounts & policies management, this can be managed by using mc admin commands. Deprecated support of bucket management, this can be managed by using mc commands. Deprecated support of configuration management, this can be managed by using mc admin config commands. Please refer to the MinIO Client for more information.Deprecated support of accounts & policies management, this can be managed by using mc admin commands. Deprecated support of bucket management, this can be managed by using mc commands. Deprecated support of configuration management, this can be managed by using mc admin config commands. " This PR that removes away all the features in the UI: https://github.com/minio/object-browser/pull/3509 https://github.com/minio/object-browser/pull/3509 . The discussion around this PR is locked. I think that "Deprecated support" has another meaning. I hate when this kind of things happens.
- roygbiv2 1y ago
  Oh good I'll look forward to migrating away from this in the near future then.
elashri 1y ago
Someone is already forked to the last version befote changes [1] but not sure about the potential project future or if it is going to gain traction. Also any alternative that people are using that is similar? [1] https://github.com/OpenMaxIO/openmaxio-object-browser https://github.com/OpenMaxIO/openmaxio-object-browser
egorfine 1y ago
Bear in mind that actual features are NOT going away, it's just the web-based UI that has been removed with `mc` command staying intact.
- bonki 1y ago
  I think the changelog is pretty clear on that, but I assume for many users this is not a "just" thing and matters a lot. Enshittification started before this change, but now it's really obvious where they are heading.
  - egorfine 1y ago
    In my personal opinion, this is a perfectly fine change. The company has to make money. Nudging corporate users (who are incapable of running `mc`) towards purchase of license to have a web UI is a nice solution, I'm all for it.
- nivertech 1y ago
  why mc is needed at all? can't one just use aws s3 CLI with environment variable pointing to MinIO S3 backend endpoint?
  - cortesoft 1y ago
    You can't create tenants with AWS s3 CLI
- diggan 1y ago
  > Bear in mind that actual features are NOT going away To many of us, having a UI is an actual feature, in so much that if there are alternatives to MinIO that comes with a UI, I'd probably move to that.
- WhyNotHugo 1y ago
  It's an odd direction to take too. I can see an individual or very small team using the web based GUI, but a large enterprise client would need automation that's done via the cli.
jacksgt 1y ago
Which software are folks using to run self-hosted / on-premises S3? I'm looking to replace MinIO in my homelab and would like to keep a S3 management UI.
- KronisLV 1y ago
  Some that I've seen: SeaweedFS: https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs (Apache 2.0) Garage: https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage (AGPL) Zenko: https://github.com/scality/Zenko https://github.com/scality/Zenko (Apache 2.0)
  - remram 1y ago
    But which ones have a management UI?
    - diggan 1y ago
      None of those, if a quick search of "ui/gui/user experience" is of any indication. Also looking for an alternative to MinIO since I also rely on the GUI for some things. But it feels like these things should probably be separate? Since they all expose a S3 compatible API interface, couldn't we have one GUI that can be used regardless of the backend?
- stuaxo 1y ago
  It's great when building software and testing locally, e.g. in a docker setup.
rhim 1y ago
Discussion on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1kva3pw/avoid_minio_developers_introduce_trojan_horse/ https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1kva3pw/avoid_m...
bravetraveler 1y ago
Clinking silverware heard in the distance

43 points by itherseed 1y ago

In a move that reminiscent of the change of Redis, they removed all the functionality of the UI of the community version and pointed to the paid version. From the Changelog: (https://github.com/minio/object-browser/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md https://github.com/minio/object-browser/blob/master/CHANGELO...) "Deprecated support of accounts & policies management, this can be managed by using mc admin commands. Deprecated support of bucket management, this can be managed by using mc commands. Deprecated support of configuration management, this can be managed by using mc admin config commands. Please refer to the MinIO Client for more information.Deprecated support of accounts & policies management, this can be managed by using mc admin commands. Deprecated support of bucket management, this can be managed by using mc commands. Deprecated support of configuration management, this can be managed by using mc admin config commands. " This PR that removes away all the features in the UI: https://github.com/minio/object-browser/pull/3509 https://github.com/minio/object-browser/pull/3509 . The discussion around this PR is locked. I think that "Deprecated support" has another meaning. I hate when this kind of things happens.

roygbiv2 1y ago
Oh good I'll look forward to migrating away from this in the near future then.

elashri 1y ago

Someone is already forked to the last version befote changes [1] but not sure about the potential project future or if it is going to gain traction. Also any alternative that people are using that is similar? [1] https://github.com/OpenMaxIO/openmaxio-object-browser https://github.com/OpenMaxIO/openmaxio-object-browser

egorfine 1y ago

Bear in mind that actual features are NOT going away, it's just the web-based UI that has been removed with `mc` command staying intact.

bonki 1y ago
I think the changelog is pretty clear on that, but I assume for many users this is not a "just" thing and matters a lot. Enshittification started before this change, but now it's really obvious where they are heading.
- egorfine 1y ago
  In my personal opinion, this is a perfectly fine change. The company has to make money. Nudging corporate users (who are incapable of running `mc`) towards purchase of license to have a web UI is a nice solution, I'm all for it.
nivertech 1y ago
why mc is needed at all? can't one just use aws s3 CLI with environment variable pointing to MinIO S3 backend endpoint?
- cortesoft 1y ago
  You can't create tenants with AWS s3 CLI
diggan 1y ago
> Bear in mind that actual features are NOT going away To many of us, having a UI is an actual feature, in so much that if there are alternatives to MinIO that comes with a UI, I'd probably move to that.
WhyNotHugo 1y ago
It's an odd direction to take too. I can see an individual or very small team using the web based GUI, but a large enterprise client would need automation that's done via the cli.

jacksgt 1y ago

Which software are folks using to run self-hosted / on-premises S3? I'm looking to replace MinIO in my homelab and would like to keep a S3 management UI.

KronisLV 1y ago
Some that I've seen: SeaweedFS: https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs (Apache 2.0) Garage: https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage (AGPL) Zenko: https://github.com/scality/Zenko https://github.com/scality/Zenko (Apache 2.0)
- remram 1y ago
  But which ones have a management UI?
  - diggan 1y ago
    None of those, if a quick search of "ui/gui/user experience" is of any indication. Also looking for an alternative to MinIO since I also rely on the GUI for some things. But it feels like these things should probably be separate? Since they all expose a S3 compatible API interface, couldn't we have one GUI that can be used regardless of the backend?
stuaxo 1y ago
It's great when building software and testing locally, e.g. in a docker setup.

rhim 1y ago

Discussion on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1kva3pw/avoid_minio_developers_introduce_trojan_horse/ https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1kva3pw/avoid_m...

bravetraveler 1y ago

Clinking silverware heard in the distance