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I'd recommend, unfortunately, buying a cheap $200 netbook and running cloudflare tunnel on it. As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting

I'd recommend, unfortunately, buying a cheap $200 netbook and running cloudflare tunnel on it. As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever

andrewmcwatters 1y ago
That's nearly 20 years of lowendbox provider annual payments for what this guy is asking for.
- remram 1y ago
  Or even more years of GCP/OCI free tier VMs. https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compute https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compu... https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier...
lxgr 1y ago
> As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever > running cloudflare tunnel There's some irony here.
- CharlesW 1y ago
  The Cloudflare dependency is for networking, not hosting. It would be very impressive to see a self-hosted service available over the internet without introducing a 3rd-party dependency or two.
  - dec0dedab0de 1y ago
    has the internet really changed that much?
    - lxgr 1y ago
      Generally, I'd say so – life behind CG-NATs can be hard for non-eyeballs. But fortunately IPv6 is maybe finally happening, which solves many of the NAT problems, and in the meantime there's clever things like Tailscale.
  - lxgr 1y ago
    Yes, but my point is that there are many web hosting services, but only very few such proxy services to my knowledge. (Tailscale is another great option if you don't need public reachability.) I don't think it's a great tradeoff, when optimizing for independence of specialized solutions at least.
    - CharlesW 1y ago
      Sorry, yes —¹ I was just gently poking you about the idea of self-hosting outside of one's local network without many 3rd-parties involved. BTW, Tailscale Funnel²³ (in beta) does provide public reachability! ² https://tailscale.com/kb/1223/funnel https://tailscale.com/kb/1223/funnel ³ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxmfpCl20c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxmfpCl20c ¹ Please enjoy this hand-typed em-dash.
      - lxgr 1y ago
        Oh, nice, I vaguely remembered them doing something in that area but forgot about the details. Thanks for the reminder and the artisanal typography :)
    - apitman 1y ago
      More than a few: https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling
- LordShredda 1y ago
  I'm only suggesting it because calling my ISP and asking for a static IP + an open port is a hassle. It's only a way to forward ports
ignoramous 1y ago
Workloads allowing, sub £50 SBCs like Banana Pi might do?
barnabee 1y ago
My vote for doing this is to get a second hand Lenovo/HP/Dell mini pc. They're cheap (thanks to corporate upgrade cycles and the sheer number of "obsolete" models that are out there on eBay et al.), quiet, reliable, low power consumption, and generally pretty capable for the money.

I'd recommend, unfortunately, buying a cheap $200 netbook and running cloudflare tunnel on it. As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever

andrewmcwatters 1y ago

That's nearly 20 years of lowendbox provider annual payments for what this guy is asking for.

remram 1y ago
Or even more years of GCP/OCI free tier VMs. https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compute https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compu... https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier...

lxgr 1y ago

> As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever > running cloudflare tunnel There's some irony here.

CharlesW 1y ago
The Cloudflare dependency is for networking, not hosting. It would be very impressive to see a self-hosted service available over the internet without introducing a 3rd-party dependency or two.
- dec0dedab0de 1y ago
  has the internet really changed that much?
  - lxgr 1y ago
    Generally, I'd say so – life behind CG-NATs can be hard for non-eyeballs. But fortunately IPv6 is maybe finally happening, which solves many of the NAT problems, and in the meantime there's clever things like Tailscale.
- lxgr 1y ago
  Yes, but my point is that there are many web hosting services, but only very few such proxy services to my knowledge. (Tailscale is another great option if you don't need public reachability.) I don't think it's a great tradeoff, when optimizing for independence of specialized solutions at least.
  - CharlesW 1y ago
    Sorry, yes —¹ I was just gently poking you about the idea of self-hosting outside of one's local network without many 3rd-parties involved. BTW, Tailscale Funnel²³ (in beta) does provide public reachability! ² https://tailscale.com/kb/1223/funnel https://tailscale.com/kb/1223/funnel ³ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxmfpCl20c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxmfpCl20c ¹ Please enjoy this hand-typed em-dash.
    - lxgr 1y ago
      Oh, nice, I vaguely remembered them doing something in that area but forgot about the details. Thanks for the reminder and the artisanal typography :)
  - apitman 1y ago
    More than a few: https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling
LordShredda 1y ago
I'm only suggesting it because calling my ISP and asking for a static IP + an open port is a hassle. It's only a way to forward ports

ignoramous 1y ago

Workloads allowing, sub £50 SBCs like Banana Pi might do?

barnabee 1y ago

My vote for doing this is to get a second hand Lenovo/HP/Dell mini pc. They're cheap (thanks to corporate upgrade cycles and the sheer number of "obsolete" models that are out there on eBay et al.), quiet, reliable, low power consumption, and generally pretty capable for the money.