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You should report an issue with your specs, not just say “other applications don’t have this problem” — especially as a Linux user. For one, not all applicatio

You should report an issue with your specs, not just say “other applications don’t have this problem” — especially as a Linux user. For one, not all applications are GPU accelerated. Two, their UX may need to be improved for a specific hardware configuration. I have used Zed with good performance on Intel dGPU, AMD dGPU, and Intel iGPU without issue — my guess is a missing dependency?

duped 1y ago
Meh, it's not worth the trouble. I don't care enough about using Zed to fix their Linux distribution problems or debug something for them. This isn't some volunteer backed FOSS project where they get a free pass or free QA work from me.
- ndiddy 1y ago
  What's the point of commenting that it's slow if you don't care about using the program and switched to something else? Also, how is whether the project is volunteer-run relevant? Would you file a support ticket for commercial software you use saying "it's slow" and then when they follow up asking for details about your setup, you say "sorry, you don't get free QA work from me"? Do you really think that would lead to them fixing your performance problem?
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
    There is great enthusiasm for the editor in this thread. A personal anecdote indicating subpar performance on a common developer environment (Linux) is a useful signal that took a few seconds of effort. Putting together a high quality, actionable bug report is a much higher bar that can often feel like screaming at the clouds.
    - droopyEyelids 1y ago
      It seem like bickering at this point, but I do not see how that is a useful signal. I’m genuinely curious what you are getting out of it
      - 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
        So, only positive feedback allowed in this thread? As a Linux user, I am sadly accustomed to some software working in only a just-so configuration. A datapoint that the software is still Mac first development is useful to know. Zed might still be worth trying, but I have to temper my enthusiasm from the headline announcement of, “everything is great”.
        dcow 1y ago
        Is it even Zed’s fault if your linux system/setup over-eagerly prefers cpu rendered graphics because of old political and religious driver licensing issues?
  - duped 1y ago
    The point was contradicting another comment with my own experience, not to putz around with bug reports or trouble shooting. I don't care about Zed fixing anything - they're Zed's issues, not mine. All I'm saying is that contrary to what someone else said about the software being "fast" I tried it and at startup, it was unusably slow. I'm what you would call a failed conversion. > Also, how is whether the project is volunteer-run relevant? Would you file a support ticket for commercial software you use saying "it's slow" and then when they follow up asking for details about your setup, you say "sorry, you don't get free QA work from me" So this is kind of needlessly antagonistic imo - the point between the lines is that FOSS projects run by volunteers get a lot more grace than venture backed companies that go on promotion blitzes talking about their performance.
    - stronglikedan 1y ago
      > they're Zed's issues, not mine. seems like you needing a GPU would be your issue
      - johnisgood 1y ago
        2025, when you need a high-end GPU for a text editor...
        dcow 1y ago
        You don’t need a high-end gpu zed runs perfectly fine on embedded graphics. There are no shortage of software configurations on linux that result in cpu graphics rendering, which is the problem.
    - onli 1y ago
      But you run Linux, with its myriad of software configurations. And if this thread is correct Linux support is already far along, if it runs well on something old like the X230. It is not a realistic expectation for any project to work on your hardware if you are not at least willing to report an issue, or rather: No software will run flawlessly on all hardware always, that's not realistic. Error message, hardware configuration, done. From my perspective that is not something you do for zed, but something you do for your distro and hardware. And ofc, your first comment was fine either way. But the attitude of the latter is just poor.

duped 1y ago

Meh, it's not worth the trouble. I don't care enough about using Zed to fix their Linux distribution problems or debug something for them. This isn't some volunteer backed FOSS project where they get a free pass or free QA work from me.

ndiddy 1y ago
What's the point of commenting that it's slow if you don't care about using the program and switched to something else? Also, how is whether the project is volunteer-run relevant? Would you file a support ticket for commercial software you use saying "it's slow" and then when they follow up asking for details about your setup, you say "sorry, you don't get free QA work from me"? Do you really think that would lead to them fixing your performance problem?
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
  There is great enthusiasm for the editor in this thread. A personal anecdote indicating subpar performance on a common developer environment (Linux) is a useful signal that took a few seconds of effort. Putting together a high quality, actionable bug report is a much higher bar that can often feel like screaming at the clouds.
  - droopyEyelids 1y ago
    It seem like bickering at this point, but I do not see how that is a useful signal. I’m genuinely curious what you are getting out of it
    - 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
      So, only positive feedback allowed in this thread? As a Linux user, I am sadly accustomed to some software working in only a just-so configuration. A datapoint that the software is still Mac first development is useful to know. Zed might still be worth trying, but I have to temper my enthusiasm from the headline announcement of, “everything is great”.
      - dcow 1y ago
        Is it even Zed’s fault if your linux system/setup over-eagerly prefers cpu rendered graphics because of old political and religious driver licensing issues?
- duped 1y ago
  The point was contradicting another comment with my own experience, not to putz around with bug reports or trouble shooting. I don't care about Zed fixing anything - they're Zed's issues, not mine. All I'm saying is that contrary to what someone else said about the software being "fast" I tried it and at startup, it was unusably slow. I'm what you would call a failed conversion. > Also, how is whether the project is volunteer-run relevant? Would you file a support ticket for commercial software you use saying "it's slow" and then when they follow up asking for details about your setup, you say "sorry, you don't get free QA work from me" So this is kind of needlessly antagonistic imo - the point between the lines is that FOSS projects run by volunteers get a lot more grace than venture backed companies that go on promotion blitzes talking about their performance.
  - stronglikedan 1y ago
    > they're Zed's issues, not mine. seems like you needing a GPU would be your issue
    - johnisgood 1y ago
      2025, when you need a high-end GPU for a text editor...
      - dcow 1y ago
        You don’t need a high-end gpu zed runs perfectly fine on embedded graphics. There are no shortage of software configurations on linux that result in cpu graphics rendering, which is the problem.
  - onli 1y ago
    But you run Linux, with its myriad of software configurations. And if this thread is correct Linux support is already far along, if it runs well on something old like the X230. It is not a realistic expectation for any project to work on your hardware if you are not at least willing to report an issue, or rather: No software will run flawlessly on all hardware always, that's not realistic. Error message, hardware configuration, done. From my perspective that is not something you do for zed, but something you do for your distro and hardware. And ofc, your first comment was fine either way. But the attitude of the latter is just poor.