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I'm not convinced that I should worry about people that would let AI run their lives. They're gonna pay the price for their foolishness, and paying the price i

I'm not convinced that I should worry about people that would let AI run their lives. They're gonna pay the price for their foolishness, and paying the price is the universe's mechanism for keeping itself in balance. Take what's going on the US for example...

mikewarot 1y ago
Those people include all of your friends family and community. No man is an island, regardless of what Silicon Valley might have you believe. The price will be born by all of us.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y ago
  Some of us are raising families and finding friends who won't be part of this. We're trying to carve out little islands. I can't save you, and I don't even want to.
  - TimTheTinker 1y ago
    > I can't save you, and I don't even want to. "Love your neighbor as yourself" exists in some form in every major pre-modern religion and philosophy because it's a cornerstone of society. Not over-compassionate, truthless love or yet another government program, but caring about those we run into enough to--at minimum--personally help meet their basic needs and defend or rescue them from immediate threats to their safety. If we're going to let anything go, it shouldn't be that.
  - rightbyte 1y ago
    If you create a community with like minded individuals it will be very prone to infighting ...
  - jt2190 1y ago
    I assume this is your last post on HN, since AI will surely be participating in the discussions here in the near future. Seriously, though… How will you “carve out a little island”? Computers are the kingdom of AI.
    - aaronax 1y ago
      Very similar to Amish, Mennonites, Hutterites, etc. I imagine. Draw the line of what you think makes life good and follow as close as is reasonable, and if others agree they will associate.
- pimlottc 1y ago
  > The price will be born by all of us. You probably meant borne, but I do agree we're all somewhat responsible too...
- emorning3 1y ago
  >>The price will be born by all of us.<< No doubt that is true, but... Suppose an extortionist comes to my business and says "hey, that's a nice business you got there, it would be a shame if someone was to ruin it with a bunch of horseshit tariffs" I'd say 'yes sir no problem" and then do my goddamn best to murder those fucks in their sleep. Making them pay the price for extorting me will make sure that its not gonna happen again. So now suppose the business next door is being extorted. And I tell the owner that I'd be happy to murder the extortionists for them. But they say "nah dog, they're sending the bad guys to El Salvador, it'll be fine". How do expect me to care about that guy? Fuck that guy.
n_ary 1y ago
Those people will range from your president to regulators to your boss and local utilities. Unlike other novelties(iPhones and internet), AI mandates comes from top-down and is not optional or luxury anymore. We are beholden to the few capital lords if you come to think about it.

mikewarot 1y ago

Those people include all of your friends family and community. No man is an island, regardless of what Silicon Valley might have you believe. The price will be born by all of us.

NoMoreNicksLeft 1y ago
Some of us are raising families and finding friends who won't be part of this. We're trying to carve out little islands. I can't save you, and I don't even want to.
- TimTheTinker 1y ago
  > I can't save you, and I don't even want to. "Love your neighbor as yourself" exists in some form in every major pre-modern religion and philosophy because it's a cornerstone of society. Not over-compassionate, truthless love or yet another government program, but caring about those we run into enough to--at minimum--personally help meet their basic needs and defend or rescue them from immediate threats to their safety. If we're going to let anything go, it shouldn't be that.
- rightbyte 1y ago
  If you create a community with like minded individuals it will be very prone to infighting ...
- jt2190 1y ago
  I assume this is your last post on HN, since AI will surely be participating in the discussions here in the near future. Seriously, though… How will you “carve out a little island”? Computers are the kingdom of AI.
  - aaronax 1y ago
    Very similar to Amish, Mennonites, Hutterites, etc. I imagine. Draw the line of what you think makes life good and follow as close as is reasonable, and if others agree they will associate.
pimlottc 1y ago
> The price will be born by all of us. You probably meant borne, but I do agree we're all somewhat responsible too...
emorning3 1y ago
>>The price will be born by all of us.<< No doubt that is true, but... Suppose an extortionist comes to my business and says "hey, that's a nice business you got there, it would be a shame if someone was to ruin it with a bunch of horseshit tariffs" I'd say 'yes sir no problem" and then do my goddamn best to murder those fucks in their sleep. Making them pay the price for extorting me will make sure that its not gonna happen again. So now suppose the business next door is being extorted. And I tell the owner that I'd be happy to murder the extortionists for them. But they say "nah dog, they're sending the bad guys to El Salvador, it'll be fine". How do expect me to care about that guy? Fuck that guy.

n_ary 1y ago

Those people will range from your president to regulators to your boss and local utilities. Unlike other novelties(iPhones and internet), AI mandates comes from top-down and is not optional or luxury anymore. We are beholden to the few capital lords if you come to think about it.