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Our plan is to be a superset of Cline and Roo's features (we already have all the major features from both) [0] We also have our own provider, which means no n

Our plan is to be a superset of Cline and Roo's features (we already have all the major features from both) [0] We also have our own provider, which means no need to bring your own API keys (you can if you like, but it is batteries included by default) and we're not charging anything on top of the API pricing. Instead of monetizing on individual developers, we want it to be free for them and make money eventually off enterprise contracts [1] [0]: https://blog.kilocode.ai/p/roo-or-cline-were-building-a-superset https://blog.kilocode.ai/p/roo-or-cline-were-building-a-supe... [1]: https://kilocode.ai https://kilocode.ai

alasano 1y ago
I can't find any reference to Cline/Roo charging anything on top of API pricing. Not sure how they'd do it considering you bring your own API keys. Can you link me to a resource?
- oofbaroomf 1y ago
  GP didn't say Cline/Roo charged anything on top.
  - alasano 1y ago
    The comparison table on the kilo site says "OpenRouter without 5% markup" and only puts a checkbox next to kilo.
    - jychang 1y ago
      Roo/Cline doesn't offer Openrouter, markup or not.
      - theturtletalks 1y ago
        You can most definitely use Openrouter with Roo and Cline. Openrouter leaderboards are dominated by these 2 apps.
        jychang 1y ago
        But they don't OFFER Openrouter a paid product... You cannot give roo/cline dollars and get openrouter api access.
    - boleary-gl 1y ago
      Yes - with our built-in provider, we provide all the models that OpenRouter provides but without OpenRouter's 5% markup. We provide them at cost (the AI provider cost)
UncleOxidant 1y ago
maybe you could answer a question about kilo usage: If I choose Google Gemini as the API provider and give it my Gemini API key, why does it say that I'm low on credits (and I get API request failures immediately)? As far as I understand gemini 2.5 pro preview is free to use. (and in Cline I'm able to choose Google Gemini as the API provider & provide my API key and it will successfully make API requests)
- hadesarchitect 1y ago
  It looks like a bug to me. Did you report it on GitHub?
- hadesarchitect 1y ago
  We added it to the issues: https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349 https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349
- hadesarchitect 1y ago
  Hey, we can't reproduce it. Could you maybe jump in and give some more details? https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349 https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349

alasano 1y ago

I can't find any reference to Cline/Roo charging anything on top of API pricing. Not sure how they'd do it considering you bring your own API keys. Can you link me to a resource?

oofbaroomf 1y ago
GP didn't say Cline/Roo charged anything on top.
- alasano 1y ago
  The comparison table on the kilo site says "OpenRouter without 5% markup" and only puts a checkbox next to kilo.
  - jychang 1y ago
    Roo/Cline doesn't offer Openrouter, markup or not.
    - theturtletalks 1y ago
      You can most definitely use Openrouter with Roo and Cline. Openrouter leaderboards are dominated by these 2 apps.
      - jychang 1y ago
        But they don't OFFER Openrouter a paid product... You cannot give roo/cline dollars and get openrouter api access.
  - boleary-gl 1y ago
    Yes - with our built-in provider, we provide all the models that OpenRouter provides but without OpenRouter's 5% markup. We provide them at cost (the AI provider cost)

UncleOxidant 1y ago

maybe you could answer a question about kilo usage: If I choose Google Gemini as the API provider and give it my Gemini API key, why does it say that I'm low on credits (and I get API request failures immediately)? As far as I understand gemini 2.5 pro preview is free to use. (and in Cline I'm able to choose Google Gemini as the API provider & provide my API key and it will successfully make API requests)

hadesarchitect 1y ago
It looks like a bug to me. Did you report it on GitHub?
hadesarchitect 1y ago
We added it to the issues: https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349 https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349
hadesarchitect 1y ago
Hey, we can't reproduce it. Could you maybe jump in and give some more details? https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349 https://github.com/Kilo-Org/kilocode/issues/349