> You just don't have people like Albert Gonzalez/Stephen Watt in America now I don't know what the state of big corps netsec is today but these guys had it so

> You just don't have people like Albert Gonzalez/Stephen Watt in America now I don't know what the state of big corps netsec is today but these guys had it somewhat easy. They got initial access through weak wifi then pivoted with SQL injects and such.