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Well, the authors of frameworks and libraries still on Python 2 and without having concrete upgrade plans will have to either do something soon or others will t

by gitarr 14y ago

Well, the authors of frameworks and libraries still on Python 2 and without having concrete upgrade plans will have to either do something soon or others will take their space. Python 3 is here, now.

paganel 14y ago
> the authors of frameworks and libraries still on Python 2 and without having concrete upgrade plans will have to either do something soon or others will take their space. Do you know of anything new on PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/) ? Or any similar library that might replace it for Python 3?
- nickpresta 14y ago
  PythonMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/ http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/) works in Python3. PIL with Python3 support is coming later, apparently.
- dripton 14y ago
  Pillow (https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow) is a fork of PIL. If you look at recent commits, you'll see one that claims to make it more Python 3 friendly, but not quite Python 3 compatible because of differences in the C code. So maybe a good opportunity for someone to jump in and fix that.
- takluyver 14y ago
  There's what claims to be a Python 3 version of the codebase on Christoph Gohlke's Python packages for Windows page (http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil). I haven't tested it.
- jeremya 14y ago
  There is also Wand (http://dahlia.kr/wand/index.html http://dahlia.kr/wand/index.html), which, while still alpha, is a very nice ctypes-based, MagickWand API binding. It is also available in pypi, so is easy to install. Support for Python 3 is near-term goal of the project.
viscanti 14y ago
Until Numpy and Scipy are on Python 3, I'm going to reserve judgement. Python 3 might be here, now, for some things, but there are enough essential libraries out there that aren't, that it's not for most.
- __dontom__ 14y ago
  I think they already are: http://scipy.github.com/faq.html#do-numpy-and-scipy-support-python-3-x http://scipy.github.com/faq.html#do-numpy-and-scipy-support-... Also, Python 3 will be shipped with the next ubuntu version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3#Python_3.0 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alp...
- briancurtin 14y ago
  A trivial search would show that they are on Python 3 (and have been for some time now).
- redsymbol 14y ago
  Almost all the Python code I've written in the past year has been in Python 3. The libraries you mention have been ported already, as have many other important ones, such as sqlalchemy, lxml, httplib2, and imminently, Django. Very early on I had plenty of headaches where some library I needed was Python 2.X only, but that's becoming increasingly rare. Edit: s/eminently/imminently/

by gitarr 14y ago

Well, the authors of frameworks and libraries still on Python 2 and without having concrete upgrade plans will have to either do something soon or others will take their space. Python 3 is here, now.

paganel 14y ago

> the authors of frameworks and libraries still on Python 2 and without having concrete upgrade plans will have to either do something soon or others will take their space. Do you know of anything new on PIL (http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/) ? Or any similar library that might replace it for Python 3?

nickpresta 14y ago
PythonMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/ http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/) works in Python3. PIL with Python3 support is coming later, apparently.
dripton 14y ago
Pillow (https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow) is a fork of PIL. If you look at recent commits, you'll see one that claims to make it more Python 3 friendly, but not quite Python 3 compatible because of differences in the C code. So maybe a good opportunity for someone to jump in and fix that.
takluyver 14y ago
There's what claims to be a Python 3 version of the codebase on Christoph Gohlke's Python packages for Windows page (http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil). I haven't tested it.
jeremya 14y ago
There is also Wand (http://dahlia.kr/wand/index.html http://dahlia.kr/wand/index.html), which, while still alpha, is a very nice ctypes-based, MagickWand API binding. It is also available in pypi, so is easy to install. Support for Python 3 is near-term goal of the project.

viscanti 14y ago

Until Numpy and Scipy are on Python 3, I'm going to reserve judgement. Python 3 might be here, now, for some things, but there are enough essential libraries out there that aren't, that it's not for most.

__dontom__ 14y ago
I think they already are: http://scipy.github.com/faq.html#do-numpy-and-scipy-support-python-3-x http://scipy.github.com/faq.html#do-numpy-and-scipy-support-... Also, Python 3 will be shipped with the next ubuntu version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3#Python_3.0 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alp...
briancurtin 14y ago
A trivial search would show that they are on Python 3 (and have been for some time now).
redsymbol 14y ago
Almost all the Python code I've written in the past year has been in Python 3. The libraries you mention have been ported already, as have many other important ones, such as sqlalchemy, lxml, httplib2, and imminently, Django. Very early on I had plenty of headaches where some library I needed was Python 2.X only, but that's becoming increasingly rare. Edit: s/eminently/imminently/