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As someone who has several friends and family who work in the mid / lower tiers of the entertainment industry... if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like

As someone who has several friends and family who work in the mid / lower tiers of the entertainment industry... if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like you're performing a noble act. Are entertainment execs grossly overpaid and exploitative? Sure - not unlike many industries. But lower revenue and lower subscriber numbers do have an impact on the money that trickles down (yes, trickles, sadly) to employees. I say this mostly because the tech set seems OK with content piracy in a way that they wouldn't be OK with say, shoplifting. I don't see people recommending walking out with a pair of Airpods from best buy because of Apple's ethical breaches.

tumdum_ 1y ago
You should be more worried about Meta doing piracy than individuals: https://torrentfreak.com/meta-torrented-over-81-tb-of-data-through-annas-archive-despite-few-seeders-250206/ https://torrentfreak.com/meta-torrented-over-81-tb-of-data-t...
- TeMPOraL 1y ago
  Why? They've gave it back to society in form of Llama models; it's a great and strongly positive development.
  - tumdum_ 1y ago
    So copyright matters only sometimes? If that’s so, I bet anyone who consumed pirated content has had some positive impact on the society because of it.
    - opello 1y ago
      The ends justifying the means is a pretty popular argument these days.
- thmoonbus 1y ago
  I agree, and I am?
alextingle 1y ago
Shoplifting and copyright violation are not comparable. Most of us on this site produce copyrighted works for money. Many of us are pretty knowledgable about how copyright works, as it's an integral part of our livelihood. So please don't try to promulgate that weird media industry propaganda here.
- thmoonbus 1y ago
  Ah yeah the weird propaganda that people labor to make creative output, and if you value that output and have the means, you should consider paying for it. Also, read what I wrote: "if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like you're performing a noble act". What specifically bugs me is less so the act - I assume few among us haven't engaged in illegal streaming, paywall bypassing, password sharing etc. - it's the weird contortions people go through to frame piracy as a noble endeavor vs. just admitting they're being too cheap to pay for something.
  - Fnoord 1y ago
    For me it is rather can no longer afford, and cutting back on dependency on USA.
    - Hnrobert42 1y ago
      But if I understand correctly, you aren't cutting back your dependence on the US. You are cutting back on paying for your dependence. If you really want to cut back, consume non-US media.
- Hnrobert42 1y ago
  They are quite comparable, and it's not media industry propaganda. I'm old enough to remember life before mp3 sharing. The only way to get music was from a CD, bought or stolen. I didn't steal CDs, so when "free" mp3s were available, I didn't take them either. Commit theft if you want, but be an adult and acknowledge it for what it is.
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tumdum_ 1y ago

You should be more worried about Meta doing piracy than individuals: https://torrentfreak.com/meta-torrented-over-81-tb-of-data-through-annas-archive-despite-few-seeders-250206/ https://torrentfreak.com/meta-torrented-over-81-tb-of-data-t...

TeMPOraL 1y ago
Why? They've gave it back to society in form of Llama models; it's a great and strongly positive development.
- tumdum_ 1y ago
  So copyright matters only sometimes? If that’s so, I bet anyone who consumed pirated content has had some positive impact on the society because of it.
  - opello 1y ago
    The ends justifying the means is a pretty popular argument these days.
thmoonbus 1y ago
I agree, and I am?

alextingle 1y ago

Shoplifting and copyright violation are not comparable. Most of us on this site produce copyrighted works for money. Many of us are pretty knowledgable about how copyright works, as it's an integral part of our livelihood. So please don't try to promulgate that weird media industry propaganda here.

thmoonbus 1y ago
Ah yeah the weird propaganda that people labor to make creative output, and if you value that output and have the means, you should consider paying for it. Also, read what I wrote: "if you want to pirate, fine, but don't act like you're performing a noble act". What specifically bugs me is less so the act - I assume few among us haven't engaged in illegal streaming, paywall bypassing, password sharing etc. - it's the weird contortions people go through to frame piracy as a noble endeavor vs. just admitting they're being too cheap to pay for something.
- Fnoord 1y ago
  For me it is rather can no longer afford, and cutting back on dependency on USA.
  - Hnrobert42 1y ago
    But if I understand correctly, you aren't cutting back your dependence on the US. You are cutting back on paying for your dependence. If you really want to cut back, consume non-US media.
Hnrobert42 1y ago
They are quite comparable, and it's not media industry propaganda. I'm old enough to remember life before mp3 sharing. The only way to get music was from a CD, bought or stolen. I didn't steal CDs, so when "free" mp3s were available, I didn't take them either. Commit theft if you want, but be an adult and acknowledge it for what it is.

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