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I think it’s ignorance and arrogance. The US seems to be on a path to lose technological and science leadership. The current leadership doesn’t seem to understa

I think it’s ignorance and arrogance. The US seems to be on a path to lose technological and science leadership. The current leadership doesn’t seem to understand things that aren’t flashy. I wonder when they’ll dial back on food safety. I am sure RFK knows some vitamins that protect against salmonella

johnnyjeans 1y ago
important to note: the US's food safety is already really bad. salmonella isn't a thing you have to worry about in first world countries. can't wait to see what plague demon spawns out of a food industry running amok after the FDA gets gutted.
- ac29 1y ago
  > important to note: the US's food safety is already really bad. salmonella isn't a thing you have to worry about in first world countries. There were 65,000 cases of salmonellosis in the EU in the most recent data I could find (2022). Thats a lower per capita rate than the US, but definitely not zero.
  - rickard 1y ago
    I agree that it’s not zero, but according to CDC, the US sees about 1.35 million cases per year in a population of about 346 million, which is about 390 cases per 100,000 people. Your figure for the EU over a population of 447 million in 2022 gives 14.5 cases per 100,000 people, or more than a factor of 26 less. Being 26 times less worried about something translates, at least for most things, for me, to not being worried about it any more.
- WrongAssumption 1y ago
  That’s just not true. https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5364940/chlorinated-chicken-trump-tariffs-uk-eu#:~:text=Europe%20tends%20to%20operate%20on,effective%20at%20eliminating%20the%20risk. https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx...
- jjmarr 1y ago
  At least American chicken is chlorinated: https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5364940/chlorinated-chicken-trump-tariffs-uk-eu https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx...
  - WrongAssumption 1y ago
    From the the very article you linked "The vast majority of chicken processed in the United States is not chilled in chlorine and hasn't been for quite a few years," says Dianna Bourassa, an applied poultry microbiologist at Auburn University, "So that's not the issue."
- buzer 1y ago
  Salmonella and it causes are very regional in EU. Places like Finland have basically 0 cases of salmonella caused by domestic poultry products per year. If there salmonella is found from any chicken in the flock, the whole flock will be quarantined and generally fully slaughtered (meat & eggs must be pasteurized after the slaughter if they are sold). In 2023 0.1% of the tested flocks had salmonella. According to https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11945640/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11945640/ most of the outbreaks in humans (where exact cause was found) were caused by foreign vegetables. On other hand countries like Italy find positive samples from 27% of their flocks ( https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.2903/j.efsa.2024.9106 https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.2903/j.efsa... ). USA doesn't do testing at that level as far I understand, I only found that 8% of the tested chicken parts have salmonella (https://www.propublica.org/article/salmonella-chicken-usda-food-safety https://www.propublica.org/article/salmonella-chicken-usda-f...).
senectus1 1y ago
the guy is ultimate small gov. he wants to rip it out by the roots.
- dmix 1y ago
  I don't think he's considered a small gov conservative. He increased spending last time and has continued so far this term. His tariffs are one of the biggest expansions in gov interference in modern history. They are also attempting to significantly expand executive power beyond even 9/11 terrorism days.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
  Small enough to fit in a uterus, big enough to kidnap and shoot citizens
- Sohcahtoa82 1y ago
  If you truly believe this, you don't know what small government means.
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parrellel 1y ago
According to the radio this morning, they're currently working to close all the FDA branches that do food safety testing, so, good guess?

johnnyjeans 1y ago

important to note: the US's food safety is already really bad. salmonella isn't a thing you have to worry about in first world countries. can't wait to see what plague demon spawns out of a food industry running amok after the FDA gets gutted.

ac29 1y ago
> important to note: the US's food safety is already really bad. salmonella isn't a thing you have to worry about in first world countries. There were 65,000 cases of salmonellosis in the EU in the most recent data I could find (2022). Thats a lower per capita rate than the US, but definitely not zero.
- rickard 1y ago
  I agree that it’s not zero, but according to CDC, the US sees about 1.35 million cases per year in a population of about 346 million, which is about 390 cases per 100,000 people. Your figure for the EU over a population of 447 million in 2022 gives 14.5 cases per 100,000 people, or more than a factor of 26 less. Being 26 times less worried about something translates, at least for most things, for me, to not being worried about it any more.
WrongAssumption 1y ago
That’s just not true. https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5364940/chlorinated-chicken-trump-tariffs-uk-eu#:~:text=Europe%20tends%20to%20operate%20on,effective%20at%20eliminating%20the%20risk. https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx...
jjmarr 1y ago
At least American chicken is chlorinated: https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5364940/chlorinated-chicken-trump-tariffs-uk-eu https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/15/nx...
- WrongAssumption 1y ago
  From the the very article you linked "The vast majority of chicken processed in the United States is not chilled in chlorine and hasn't been for quite a few years," says Dianna Bourassa, an applied poultry microbiologist at Auburn University, "So that's not the issue."
buzer 1y ago
Salmonella and it causes are very regional in EU. Places like Finland have basically 0 cases of salmonella caused by domestic poultry products per year. If there salmonella is found from any chicken in the flock, the whole flock will be quarantined and generally fully slaughtered (meat & eggs must be pasteurized after the slaughter if they are sold). In 2023 0.1% of the tested flocks had salmonella. According to https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11945640/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11945640/ most of the outbreaks in humans (where exact cause was found) were caused by foreign vegetables. On other hand countries like Italy find positive samples from 27% of their flocks ( https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.2903/j.efsa.2024.9106 https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.2903/j.efsa... ). USA doesn't do testing at that level as far I understand, I only found that 8% of the tested chicken parts have salmonella (https://www.propublica.org/article/salmonella-chicken-usda-food-safety https://www.propublica.org/article/salmonella-chicken-usda-f...).

senectus1 1y ago

the guy is ultimate small gov. he wants to rip it out by the roots.

dmix 1y ago
I don't think he's considered a small gov conservative. He increased spending last time and has continued so far this term. His tariffs are one of the biggest expansions in gov interference in modern history. They are also attempting to significantly expand executive power beyond even 9/11 terrorism days.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
Small enough to fit in a uterus, big enough to kidnap and shoot citizens
Sohcahtoa82 1y ago
If you truly believe this, you don't know what small government means.

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parrellel 1y ago

According to the radio this morning, they're currently working to close all the FDA branches that do food safety testing, so, good guess?