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> Google will eventually copy… Weird take given Google basically invented and released through well written papers and open-source software the modern deep lea

by mritun 1y ago

> Google will eventually copy… Weird take given Google basically invented and released through well written papers and open-source software the modern deep learning stack which all others build on. Google was being disses because they failed to make any product and were increasingly looking like Kodak/Xerox one trick pony. It seems they have woken up from whatever slumber they were in

Workaccount2 1y ago
They didn't entirely drop the ball since they did develop TPUs in anticipation of heavy ML workloads in the future. They tripped over themselves getting an LLM out, but quickly recovered primarily because they didn't have to run to nvidia and beg for chips like everyone else in the field is stuck doing.
strangattractor 1y ago
Like MS, Google is ubiquitous - search is much like Office and DOS before that. Anything OpenAPI or the other AI competitors create would normally be protected by patents for instance. Not so with an AI models. Google has the clout/know how to responded with similar technology - adding it to their ubiquitous search. People are both lazy and cheap. They will always go with cheaper and good enough.
- harrall 1y ago
  Google invented the technology. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need OpenAI was the copycat. If Google had patented this technique, OpenAI wouldn’t have existed.
  - strangattractor 1y ago
    How do you patented it? What specific "practical, real-world application" does AGI purport to solve? All these algorithms work by using massive amounts of data. They all do it the same way or close to the same way. "Algorithms can be patented when integrated into specific technical applications or physical implementations. The U.S. Patent Office assesses algorithm-based patent applications based on their practical benefits and technological contributions. Pure mathematical formulas or abstract algorithms cannot be patented. To be eligible, an algorithm must address a tangible technical challenge or enhance computational performance measurably. Patenting an AI algorithm means protecting how it transforms data into a practical, real-world application. Although pure mathematical formulas or abstract ideas aren’t eligible for patents, algorithms can be embedded in a specific process or device." [1] [1] https://patentlawyer.io/can-you-patent-an-algorithm/#:~:text=Algorithms%20can%20be%20patented%20when,a%20specific%20process%20or%20device. https://patentlawyer.io/can-you-patent-an-algorithm/#:~:text...

by mritun 1y ago

Workaccount2 1y ago

They didn't entirely drop the ball since they did develop TPUs in anticipation of heavy ML workloads in the future. They tripped over themselves getting an LLM out, but quickly recovered primarily because they didn't have to run to nvidia and beg for chips like everyone else in the field is stuck doing.

strangattractor 1y ago

Like MS, Google is ubiquitous - search is much like Office and DOS before that. Anything OpenAPI or the other AI competitors create would normally be protected by patents for instance. Not so with an AI models. Google has the clout/know how to responded with similar technology - adding it to their ubiquitous search. People are both lazy and cheap. They will always go with cheaper and good enough.

harrall 1y ago
Google invented the technology. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need OpenAI was the copycat. If Google had patented this technique, OpenAI wouldn’t have existed.
- strangattractor 1y ago
  How do you patented it? What specific "practical, real-world application" does AGI purport to solve? All these algorithms work by using massive amounts of data. They all do it the same way or close to the same way. "Algorithms can be patented when integrated into specific technical applications or physical implementations. The U.S. Patent Office assesses algorithm-based patent applications based on their practical benefits and technological contributions. Pure mathematical formulas or abstract algorithms cannot be patented. To be eligible, an algorithm must address a tangible technical challenge or enhance computational performance measurably. Patenting an AI algorithm means protecting how it transforms data into a practical, real-world application. Although pure mathematical formulas or abstract ideas aren’t eligible for patents, algorithms can be embedded in a specific process or device." [1] [1] https://patentlawyer.io/can-you-patent-an-algorithm/#:~:text=Algorithms%20can%20be%20patented%20when,a%20specific%20process%20or%20device. https://patentlawyer.io/can-you-patent-an-algorithm/#:~:text...