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https://effectiviology.com/credentials-fallacy/ https://effectiviology.com/credentials-fallacy/ Also I've provided more than ample evidence that HRW is deeply

https://effectiviology.com/credentials-fallacy/ https://effectiviology.com/credentials-fallacy/ Also I've provided more than ample evidence that HRW is deeply compromised on this issue and has been for many years: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/29/human-rights-watch-ngo-israel https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/29/human-rights-w...

ang_cire 1y ago
Oh look, the "ample evidence" link you provide is ALSO an opinion statement, and it's written by... > Elie Wiesel, Prof Alan Dershowitz, R James Woolsey, Elliott Abrams, Tom Gross, Prof Judea Pearl, Douglas Murray Hmmmm, none of those people are famously biased towards Israel.... Also, you are misusing Credentials Fallacy to dismiss the difference between factual reporting and opinion. If I dismissed a peer-reviewed study you posted by saying that YOU aren't a scientist/expert, THAT would be Credential Fallacy. It doesn't just mean that you have to accept all sources and claims as equal. "You just dismissed my Infowars link without even providing a detailed refutation, and just trusted the CDC instead! Fallacy!"
- PathOfEclipse 1y ago
  No. I'm saying what you call "factual reporting" is inaccurate and dishonest propaganda. And the "opinion pieces" I'm sharing are all based on facts and realities. If any source is deserving of a comparison to InfoWars here it's HRW itself. You can't unilaterally smear every right-of-center source as completely untrustworthy and expect to stay on the side of reality for long.
  - ang_cire 1y ago
    Ah yes, the very dishonest and propagandistic Associated Press: > Israeli strikes on Gaza kill 32, mostly women and children (Apr 6) [1] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-04-06-2025-1e8006e86210560a594e48106456173f https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-new... > An Israeli strike hit near a charity kitchen in Gaza as Palestinians gathered for food (Apr 7) [2] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-04-07-2025-1ef0696b9c12bf18b5123ccd5b384a02 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-new... > Palestinian teenager who died in Israeli prison showed signs of starvation, medical report says (Apr 6) > Starvation was likely the leading cause of death for a Palestinian teenager who died in an Israeli prison, according to an Israeli doctor who observed the autopsy. [3] https://apnews.com/article/autopsy-palestinian-deaths-israeli-prisons-torture-starvation-0fcaaceb7420b684bb449f798434477b https://apnews.com/article/autopsy-palestinian-deaths-israel... Or how about Business Insider? > Israel's 'Where's Daddy?' AI system helps target suspected Hamas militants when they're at home with their families, report says [4] https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-dadd... The Georgetown Security Studies Review? > The Dehumanization of ISR: Israel’s Use of Artificial Intelligence In Warfare > “At 5 a.m., [the air force] would come and bomb all the houses that we had marked,” B. said, an anonymous IDF soldier. “We took out thousands of people. We didn’t go through them one by one—we put everything into automated systems, and as soon as one of [the marked individuals] was at home, he immediately became a target. We bombed him and his house.” [5] https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2025/01/09/the-dehumanization-of-isr-israels-use-of-artificial-intelligence-in-warfare/ https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2025/01/09/the-d... Is there any news source apart from Netanyahu himself that you would accept as true for showing that the IDF was not taking measures not to kill women and children in Gaza?
    - PathOfEclipse 1y ago
      Actually, yes, the associated press is deeply far-left and anti-Israel (the two go together). https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized... https://www.dailywire.com/news/flashback-former-associated-press-writer-explains-how-outlet-helps-hamas-craft-anti-israel-narratives https://www.dailywire.com/news/flashback-former-associated-p... https://www.dailywire.com/news/board-member-of-politico-ownership-group-deems-article-one-sided-hamas-support https://www.dailywire.com/news/board-member-of-politico-owne... https://www.dailywire.com/news/jewish-group-sues-ap-for-providing-material-support-of-terrorism-paying-known-hamas-associates https://www.dailywire.com/news/jewish-group-sues-ap-for-prov... https://www.dailywire.com/news/terrorists-themselves-former-top-israeli-diplomat-slams-media-for-working-with-photographers-embedded-with-hamas-during-massacre https://www.dailywire.com/news/terrorists-themselves-former-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/ap-hits-new-low-with-charismatic-and-shrewd-description-of-dead-hezbollah-terrorist https://www.dailywire.com/news/ap-hits-new-low-with-charisma... And, what are the point of your links? Isarel accidentally kills civilians, which is virtually unavoidable in urban warfare. Hamas hides behind civilians in order to increase civilian casualties because they know the far left news will report on it to their favor. And, they purposely kill Israeli civilians because they are terrorists. One side is pure evil. The other is doing better than just about every nation in the world in fighting a just war. https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-kidnaps-tortures-and-murders-anti-hamas-protester https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-kidnaps-tortures-and-mu... https://www.dailywire.com/news/idf-reveals-terrorists-brutally-murdered-bibas-brothers-with-their-bare-hands https://www.dailywire.com/news/idf-reveals-terrorists-brutal... https://www.dailywire.com/news/yarden-bibas-describes-hamas-brutality-thanks-trump-in-first-interview-since-release https://www.dailywire.com/news/yarden-bibas-describes-hamas-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-israeli-hersh-goldberg-polin-among-six-dead-hostages-recovered-by-israeli-forces-in-rafah https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-israeli-hersh-goldbe... https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-leader-using-at-least-15-hostages-as-human-shields-report https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-leader-using-at-least-1... https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-loves-dead-palestinians https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-loves-dead-palestinians
      - ang_cire 1y ago

ang_cire 1y ago

Oh look, the "ample evidence" link you provide is ALSO an opinion statement, and it's written by... > Elie Wiesel, Prof Alan Dershowitz, R James Woolsey, Elliott Abrams, Tom Gross, Prof Judea Pearl, Douglas Murray Hmmmm, none of those people are famously biased towards Israel.... Also, you are misusing Credentials Fallacy to dismiss the difference between factual reporting and opinion. If I dismissed a peer-reviewed study you posted by saying that YOU aren't a scientist/expert, THAT would be Credential Fallacy. It doesn't just mean that you have to accept all sources and claims as equal. "You just dismissed my Infowars link without even providing a detailed refutation, and just trusted the CDC instead! Fallacy!"

PathOfEclipse 1y ago
No. I'm saying what you call "factual reporting" is inaccurate and dishonest propaganda. And the "opinion pieces" I'm sharing are all based on facts and realities. If any source is deserving of a comparison to InfoWars here it's HRW itself. You can't unilaterally smear every right-of-center source as completely untrustworthy and expect to stay on the side of reality for long.
- ang_cire 1y ago
  Ah yes, the very dishonest and propagandistic Associated Press: > Israeli strikes on Gaza kill 32, mostly women and children (Apr 6) [1] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-04-06-2025-1e8006e86210560a594e48106456173f https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-new... > An Israeli strike hit near a charity kitchen in Gaza as Palestinians gathered for food (Apr 7) [2] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-04-07-2025-1ef0696b9c12bf18b5123ccd5b384a02 https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-new... > Palestinian teenager who died in Israeli prison showed signs of starvation, medical report says (Apr 6) > Starvation was likely the leading cause of death for a Palestinian teenager who died in an Israeli prison, according to an Israeli doctor who observed the autopsy. [3] https://apnews.com/article/autopsy-palestinian-deaths-israeli-prisons-torture-starvation-0fcaaceb7420b684bb449f798434477b https://apnews.com/article/autopsy-palestinian-deaths-israel... Or how about Business Insider? > Israel's 'Where's Daddy?' AI system helps target suspected Hamas militants when they're at home with their families, report says [4] https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-daddy-strikes-hamas-family-homes-2024?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-ai-system-wheres-dadd... The Georgetown Security Studies Review? > The Dehumanization of ISR: Israel’s Use of Artificial Intelligence In Warfare > “At 5 a.m., [the air force] would come and bomb all the houses that we had marked,” B. said, an anonymous IDF soldier. “We took out thousands of people. We didn’t go through them one by one—we put everything into automated systems, and as soon as one of [the marked individuals] was at home, he immediately became a target. We bombed him and his house.” [5] https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2025/01/09/the-dehumanization-of-isr-israels-use-of-artificial-intelligence-in-warfare/ https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2025/01/09/the-d... Is there any news source apart from Netanyahu himself that you would accept as true for showing that the IDF was not taking measures not to kill women and children in Gaza?
  - PathOfEclipse 1y ago
    Actually, yes, the associated press is deeply far-left and anti-Israel (the two go together). https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized... https://www.dailywire.com/news/flashback-former-associated-press-writer-explains-how-outlet-helps-hamas-craft-anti-israel-narratives https://www.dailywire.com/news/flashback-former-associated-p... https://www.dailywire.com/news/board-member-of-politico-ownership-group-deems-article-one-sided-hamas-support https://www.dailywire.com/news/board-member-of-politico-owne... https://www.dailywire.com/news/jewish-group-sues-ap-for-providing-material-support-of-terrorism-paying-known-hamas-associates https://www.dailywire.com/news/jewish-group-sues-ap-for-prov... https://www.dailywire.com/news/terrorists-themselves-former-top-israeli-diplomat-slams-media-for-working-with-photographers-embedded-with-hamas-during-massacre https://www.dailywire.com/news/terrorists-themselves-former-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/ap-hits-new-low-with-charismatic-and-shrewd-description-of-dead-hezbollah-terrorist https://www.dailywire.com/news/ap-hits-new-low-with-charisma... And, what are the point of your links? Isarel accidentally kills civilians, which is virtually unavoidable in urban warfare. Hamas hides behind civilians in order to increase civilian casualties because they know the far left news will report on it to their favor. And, they purposely kill Israeli civilians because they are terrorists. One side is pure evil. The other is doing better than just about every nation in the world in fighting a just war. https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-kidnaps-tortures-and-murders-anti-hamas-protester https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-kidnaps-tortures-and-mu... https://www.dailywire.com/news/idf-reveals-terrorists-brutally-murdered-bibas-brothers-with-their-bare-hands https://www.dailywire.com/news/idf-reveals-terrorists-brutal... https://www.dailywire.com/news/yarden-bibas-describes-hamas-brutality-thanks-trump-in-first-interview-since-release https://www.dailywire.com/news/yarden-bibas-describes-hamas-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-israeli-hersh-goldberg-polin-among-six-dead-hostages-recovered-by-israeli-forces-in-rafah https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-israeli-hersh-goldbe... https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-leader-using-at-least-15-hostages-as-human-shields-report https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-leader-using-at-least-1... https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-loves-dead-palestinians https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-loves-dead-palestinians
    - ang_cire 1y ago