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Try netbird which is an open-source alternative to free yourself from worries xD https://github.com/netbirdio/netbird https://github.com/netbirdio/netbird

650REDHAIR 1y ago
Thank you for sharing this link! I was about to slog through AI search results looking for an alternative.
- drcongo 1y ago
  I've been tracking this space for a while just out of annoyance that Tailscale offers ssh on the free tier, then not on the "starter" paid tier. Netbird is by far the best of the alternatives that I've tried.
  - CharlesW 1y ago
    Their Personal Plus (the non-business "starter" plan) does offer SSH, FWIW.
  - stavros 1y ago
    Can you comment a bit on what you liked about them, especially compared to Tailscale?
    - drcongo 1y ago
      Well, it's important to start with saying I didn't like it as much as Tailscale, but I liked it a lot more than any of the others I tried. The UI for their dashboard is very good and getting it up and running was pretty trouble free though the docs could be a little better.
      - stavros 1y ago
        Ah, that makes sense thank you!
  - mkl 1y ago
    Have you tried ZeroTier? Their free plan's been working well for me. I haven't tried NetBird.
arcanemachiner 1y ago
I've always been on the outside looking in, so I've never used Tailscale or its open-source brethren. Would this service be comparable to Headscale[0]? [0] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale https://github.com/juanfont/headscale
- _lvbh 1y ago
  Headscale is server only. Netbird is the whole stack (basically does the same thing but completely different software/implementation)
  - bjackman 1y ago
    But the tailscale client is open source too
    - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
      Doesn't that also then make tailscale completely open source?
      - udev4096 1y ago
        What? The original coordination server, which is not running headscale, is closed source so yes, they are still a closed source company
      - bjackman 1y ago
        No their "real" backend is proprietary. Headscale is a separate implementation that they also maintain. It's intended for self-hosting your individual Tailnet. I'm assuming if you tried to use it as a corporate VPN you would run into limitations. Their clients for proprietary OSs are at least partly proprietary too. To be honest I find this all a very reasonable set of compromises. It means I'm comfortable using their proprietary service without feeling like I'm getting locked into a completely closed ecosystem.
    - pilif 1y ago
resiros 1y ago
I use personally for my home network. Very easy to use and quite mature. I'd highly recommend.
regisso 1y ago
I highly recommend netbird, after using it for two years. The whole stack can be self hosted is open source develop by an european based company.

650REDHAIR 1y ago

Thank you for sharing this link! I was about to slog through AI search results looking for an alternative.

drcongo 1y ago
I've been tracking this space for a while just out of annoyance that Tailscale offers ssh on the free tier, then not on the "starter" paid tier. Netbird is by far the best of the alternatives that I've tried.
- CharlesW 1y ago
  Their Personal Plus (the non-business "starter" plan) does offer SSH, FWIW.
- stavros 1y ago
  Can you comment a bit on what you liked about them, especially compared to Tailscale?
  - drcongo 1y ago
    Well, it's important to start with saying I didn't like it as much as Tailscale, but I liked it a lot more than any of the others I tried. The UI for their dashboard is very good and getting it up and running was pretty trouble free though the docs could be a little better.
    - stavros 1y ago
      Ah, that makes sense thank you!
- mkl 1y ago
  Have you tried ZeroTier? Their free plan's been working well for me. I haven't tried NetBird.

arcanemachiner 1y ago

I've always been on the outside looking in, so I've never used Tailscale or its open-source brethren. Would this service be comparable to Headscale[0]? [0] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

_lvbh 1y ago
Headscale is server only. Netbird is the whole stack (basically does the same thing but completely different software/implementation)
- bjackman 1y ago
  But the tailscale client is open source too
  - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
    Doesn't that also then make tailscale completely open source?
    - udev4096 1y ago
      What? The original coordination server, which is not running headscale, is closed source so yes, they are still a closed source company
    - bjackman 1y ago
      No their "real" backend is proprietary. Headscale is a separate implementation that they also maintain. It's intended for self-hosting your individual Tailnet. I'm assuming if you tried to use it as a corporate VPN you would run into limitations. Their clients for proprietary OSs are at least partly proprietary too. To be honest I find this all a very reasonable set of compromises. It means I'm comfortable using their proprietary service without feeling like I'm getting locked into a completely closed ecosystem.
  - pilif 1y ago

resiros 1y ago

I use personally for my home network. Very easy to use and quite mature. I'd highly recommend.

regisso 1y ago

I highly recommend netbird, after using it for two years. The whole stack can be self hosted is open source develop by an european based company.