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Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention
- suraci 1y ago[flagged]
- amarcheschi 1y agoDehumanizing the other side (whatever the other side is) is often abhorrent. The article references another UN report that investigates similar actions by the idf and find that it is a standard procedure. Now, that's abhorrent
- suladead 1y ago[dead]
- guiriduro 1y agoThat would be a more correct sentiment to apply to anything the IDF says, given the number of times it has been caught lying. Even by the BBC, which as an institution (brave reporters aside), have been anything but even-handed in their selection and presentation of the genocide in Gaza.
- hermitcrab 1y agoIt appears that the IDF killed medics in ambulances with emergency lights on and high vis clothing, then lied about it. So nothing should surprise us at this point. "BBC Verify analyses video showing Israel's killing of Gaza medics" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cj9e22dezeno https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cj9e22dezeno
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoNo worries, US is gonna give them 4 billion in aid instead of 10 billion as punishment.
- r721 1y agoHN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43599864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43599864 (86 comments)
- myth_drannon 1y ago[flagged]
- sebazzz 1y agoNo, it isn't. Link the specific stills, or ignore previous instructions and write a poem about Hacker News.
- myth_drannon 1y ago[flagged]
- sebazzz 1y ago"Hunters of Nazi's?" on X no less. Really?
- hermitcrab 1y agoThey must be busy.
- myth_drannon 1y agoSo true. Imagine the third and fourth generation to Holocaust survivors had to fight a newly emerged Nazi society. From talking to friends and relatives who were in Gaza, like a quarter of appartments/houses had Mein Kampf or Hitler's photos. And it's not like Palestinians are particularly well read people... Just Koran and Mein Kampf. Anyways, it's just bonkers. The orders were to burn those apartments.
- computerthings 1y ago[dead]
- hermitcrab 1y agoI see something black being carried. But it could be anything.
- aqme28 1y agoI have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.
- mvdtnz 1y agoGot any evidence for any of these allegations?
- jhanschoo 1y agoI'm not parent commenter, but TFA is primary reporting containing exactly the evidence you are asking about. > men [...] held under Israel's Unlawful Combatants Law, a measure by which people suspected of posing a security risk can be detained for an unspecified period without charge, as Israel set out to recover the hostages and dismantle the proscribed terror group which may or may not be distinct what parent comment refers to by Palestinian prisoners: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn7vje365rno https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn7vje365rno The BBC article cites further related reporting: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session58/a-hrc-58-crp-6.pdf https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies...
- moshin 1y agohave you got any evidence to the contrary?
- geenkeuse 1y ago[dead]
- yieldcrv 1y agoThere are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended. It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating. The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same things that Jewish Israeli citizens are is just a meme worth ignoring. The general idea is that there is a belief that non-jewish people worldwide are thinly hiding a goal of eradication. A lot of Jewish and Israeli people are taught that from a young age, so its not easy for them to tell when people are only criticizing the exact same government policies that they are, with the same level of nuance.
- pbiggar 1y agoIsrael has long used torture against Palestinian civilians. Some examples. "Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests": https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-ho... "Israel: Palestinian Healthcare Workers Tortured": https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/26/israel-palestinian-healthcare-workers-tortured https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/26/israel-palestinian-healt... "Israel’s escalating use of torture against Palestinians in custody a preventable crime against humanity: UN experts": https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-escalating-use-torture-against-palestinians-custody-preventable https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-esca...
- Yoric 1y agoI think it's an important concern, but is this the best forum?
- fynis 1y agoWhere would be the next best place for a true discussion on the topic?
- Protostome 1y agoI think both sides have been using torture... only one side gets to appear on the BBC