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This at least reflects my feelings about visiting anytime soon. I mean if I was just put on a flight back (for a tweet they found on my phone or such), that'd

by vain 1y ago

This at least reflects my feelings about visiting anytime soon. I mean if I was just put on a flight back (for a tweet they found on my phone or such), that'd be kind of bearable. At least one visitor from the UK got locked up in a facility for a week.

Bombthecat 1y ago
Yes, I have family in the USA, usually visiting them two or three times a year. Not gonna happen this year, probably the next 3 years or more.
paulgb 1y ago
> At least one visitor from the UK got locked up in a facility for a week. If you're talking about Rebecca Burke, it was almost three weeks. All for something that was at worst a naive understanding of the visa she needed. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rebecca-burke-detained-us-border-b2728031.html https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rebecca...
belter 1y ago
"Aussie MMA Coach’s Trip to America Goes Horribly Wrong as He Ends Up in Jail & Deported After Arriving in U.S." - https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-aussie-mma-coachs-trip-to-america-goes-horribly-wrong-as-he-ends-up-in-jail-deported-after-arriving-in-united-states/ https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-aussie-mma-co...
- paulgb 1y ago
  His story is a bit suspicious to me, I believe that he was detained but I can't help wondering if the rest is fiction based on watching US prison dramas. He would not have been sent to a federal prison for one thing, and his depictions of violence are what I would expect from long-term convicted felons, not people being held for having the wrong visa.
  - addicted 1y ago
    The rest doesn’t matter. No one wants to be detained. People who are spending thousands and tens of thousands of dollars to travel are fine if they need to spend a few hundreds additional ro fly back and cancel their vacation. Or sucks but it’s in the realm of the risks you take with international travel. However, being detained, even for 1 day, and treated like a criminal is something none of these folks want.
  - belter 1y ago
    Willing to concede that. But he has thousands of followers and is well known in the MMA comunity. Would he throw all that away for a good story? Also there is an update: "Update on U.S. federal prison detention of MMA coach Renato Subotic who recently trained Merab Dvalishvili" https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-update-u-s-federal-prison-detention-mma-coach-renato-subotic-recently-trained-merab-dvalishvili https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-update-u-s-federal-pris... "UPDATE: I just spoke with coach Renato Subotic for a few minutes. He says he was detained at FDC Honolulu, which is a federal prison facility. He says he has no criminal record and it was a simple visa application issue. Interview later this week."
    - paulgb 1y ago
      Interesting, I could be wrong then! The inclusion in his story of some very specific irrelevant details (like his cell/block number) while omitting anything that could be verified (like which border crossing and detention facility) was one of the things that raised my suspicion, but if he's sharing specifics now it raises my odds that he's telling the truth.

by vain 1y ago

Bombthecat 1y ago

Yes, I have family in the USA, usually visiting them two or three times a year. Not gonna happen this year, probably the next 3 years or more.

paulgb 1y ago

> At least one visitor from the UK got locked up in a facility for a week. If you're talking about Rebecca Burke, it was almost three weeks. All for something that was at worst a naive understanding of the visa she needed. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rebecca-burke-detained-us-border-b2728031.html https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/rebecca...

belter 1y ago

"Aussie MMA Coach’s Trip to America Goes Horribly Wrong as He Ends Up in Jail & Deported After Arriving in U.S." - https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-aussie-mma-coachs-trip-to-america-goes-horribly-wrong-as-he-ends-up-in-jail-deported-after-arriving-in-united-states/ https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-mma-news-aussie-mma-co...

paulgb 1y ago
His story is a bit suspicious to me, I believe that he was detained but I can't help wondering if the rest is fiction based on watching US prison dramas. He would not have been sent to a federal prison for one thing, and his depictions of violence are what I would expect from long-term convicted felons, not people being held for having the wrong visa.
- addicted 1y ago
  The rest doesn’t matter. No one wants to be detained. People who are spending thousands and tens of thousands of dollars to travel are fine if they need to spend a few hundreds additional ro fly back and cancel their vacation. Or sucks but it’s in the realm of the risks you take with international travel. However, being detained, even for 1 day, and treated like a criminal is something none of these folks want.
- belter 1y ago
  Willing to concede that. But he has thousands of followers and is well known in the MMA comunity. Would he throw all that away for a good story? Also there is an update: "Update on U.S. federal prison detention of MMA coach Renato Subotic who recently trained Merab Dvalishvili" https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-update-u-s-federal-prison-detention-mma-coach-renato-subotic-recently-trained-merab-dvalishvili https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-update-u-s-federal-pris... "UPDATE: I just spoke with coach Renato Subotic for a few minutes. He says he was detained at FDC Honolulu, which is a federal prison facility. He says he has no criminal record and it was a simple visa application issue. Interview later this week."
  - paulgb 1y ago
    Interesting, I could be wrong then! The inclusion in his story of some very specific irrelevant details (like his cell/block number) while omitting anything that could be verified (like which border crossing and detention facility) was one of the things that raised my suspicion, but if he's sharing specifics now it raises my odds that he's telling the truth.