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is this why you can "download your data" from social media app sites? to make it easier for a fed to grep for wrongthink after they make you give them your logi

by damhsa 1y ago

is this why you can "download your data" from social media app sites? to make it easier for a fed to grep for wrongthink after they make you give them your login and phone password?

kyriakos 1y ago
This is probably a joke but the reason is to comply with GDPR which requires companies to allow "easy" extraction of data they hold on you.
- damhsa 1y ago
  extraction by whom? i dont buy that. i have "downloaded my data" before and it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences they have made about me, only what i have done on the site, and they know i dont live in the EU. i assume pretend GDPR compliance is just a handy excuse thought up by marketing, killing two birds with one stone. im sure i heard at least one absurd marketing claim that it was to "let you take control of your data."
  - kyriakos 1y ago
    I don't know why its offered outside EU but GDPR has this requirement: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-15-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-15-gdpr/ (paragraph 3)
    - damhsa 1y ago
      the data downloads i have done (that could be done by anyone with my unlocked phone and logins, such as US border forces) clearly do not even try to adhere to most of the clauses there (e.g. recipients of the data). tech companies dont try to apply GDPR outside of EU, but they are generally happy to give information to the police in all countries except china. i wonder if the chinese can download their data?
      - kyriakos 1y ago
        Possible same process gives additional data for EU users
  - slightwinder 1y ago
    > extraction by whom? The user. > i have "downloaded my data" before and it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences Because they are not obligated to give them to you. They are probably not even in the same systems. > and they know i dont live in the EU. So what? They have the ability, should they revoke it based in the IP? Why? It's a selling point, without any additional price or harm for the company.
  - techjamie 1y ago
    > it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences they have made about me I'm not an expert by any definition, but I would bet the reason to that is the market inferences are a result of the data they provide you, and isn't an independent datapoint, but rather an extrapolation of what they've collected. Therefore, it could be argued that the marketing information isn't classified as something to provide. Don't know how correct I might be, I'm just playing devil's advocate out of intellectual interest.

by damhsa 1y ago

is this why you can "download your data" from social media app sites? to make it easier for a fed to grep for wrongthink after they make you give them your login and phone password?

kyriakos 1y ago

This is probably a joke but the reason is to comply with GDPR which requires companies to allow "easy" extraction of data they hold on you.

damhsa 1y ago
extraction by whom? i dont buy that. i have "downloaded my data" before and it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences they have made about me, only what i have done on the site, and they know i dont live in the EU. i assume pretend GDPR compliance is just a handy excuse thought up by marketing, killing two birds with one stone. im sure i heard at least one absurd marketing claim that it was to "let you take control of your data."
- kyriakos 1y ago
  I don't know why its offered outside EU but GDPR has this requirement: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-15-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-15-gdpr/ (paragraph 3)
  - damhsa 1y ago
    the data downloads i have done (that could be done by anyone with my unlocked phone and logins, such as US border forces) clearly do not even try to adhere to most of the clauses there (e.g. recipients of the data). tech companies dont try to apply GDPR outside of EU, but they are generally happy to give information to the police in all countries except china. i wonder if the chinese can download their data?
    - kyriakos 1y ago
      Possible same process gives additional data for EU users
- slightwinder 1y ago
  > extraction by whom? The user. > i have "downloaded my data" before and it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences Because they are not obligated to give them to you. They are probably not even in the same systems. > and they know i dont live in the EU. So what? They have the ability, should they revoke it based in the IP? Why? It's a selling point, without any additional price or harm for the company.
- techjamie 1y ago
  > it never includes any kind of analytic marketing inferences they have made about me I'm not an expert by any definition, but I would bet the reason to that is the market inferences are a result of the data they provide you, and isn't an independent datapoint, but rather an extrapolation of what they've collected. Therefore, it could be argued that the marketing information isn't classified as something to provide. Don't know how correct I might be, I'm just playing devil's advocate out of intellectual interest.