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Not especially surprising, but there’s an awfully large elephant in the room that likely directly contributed to this necessity that goes completely unmentioned

Not especially surprising, but there’s an awfully large elephant in the room that likely directly contributed to this necessity that goes completely unmentioned.

uoaei 1y ago
Is the elephant in the room with us now? (Mind filling in?)
- maccard 1y ago
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y7eyp3zpo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y7eyp3zpo
- 65 1y ago
  Matt Mullenweg is the elephant.
  - wiether 1y ago
    Since Matt regularly comments here, and given the expression chosen; I'm pretty certain that they know who the elephant is.
    - chris_wot 1y ago
      Matt commenting here was part of the reason he is in the mess he is in.
    - foobarchu 1y ago
      His account has been inactive for almost all of 2025, I think his legal team must have taken away the password.
      - lolinder 1y ago
        He has alts he uses that are probably still active.
        deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]
- alphager 1y ago
  The legal threats against WPEngine and their customers, the lawsuits between WP/Automatic/WPF and WPEngine, the banning of several contributors, the takeover of WP Plugins on WP.org, the shenanigans with several check boxes on the login pages of WP.org.
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    While it wasn't as damaging from a legal or (business) reputational perspective, he also peeked into the Tumblr database in order to doxx people who were making fun of him, which doesn't say great things about his stability or fitness to run a company.
- bananapub 1y ago
  the author of that email has been having a very public breakdown for months now, mostly consisting of being a prick and trying to harm the community and a competitor.
- xd1936 1y ago
  https://mullenweg.wtf/ https://mullenweg.wtf/ https://web.archive.org/web/20241026031947/https://bullenweg.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20241026031947/https://bullenweg...
  - stevage 1y ago
    Holy moly. I never heard of this drama before. This was crazy: https://www.reddit.com/r/WPDrama/comments/1hlp08d/what_drama_should_i_create_in_2025/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WPDrama/comments/1hlp08d/what_drama...
    - ornornor 1y ago
      That was wild.
- deleted 1y ago
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mgdev 1y ago
Matt's only real problem is not owning his ambition openly. Trying to publicly argue the moral high ground was a stupid, unforced error. It didn't need to be moralized at all. Just make the changes you want to make, piss off a vocal minority, then get back to winning and making boatloads of money by executing exceptionally. The problem, I suspect, is that Matt values how certain people perceive him more than he values winning. It's unfortunate, because he's clearly a very good executer and strategist. He's getting in his own way.
- KennyBlanken 1y ago
  IMHO moralizing wasn't really the problem. The extremely erratic behavior, the ego, the fixation with vengeance, harassing organizations legally using the Wordpress name, abusing his power at the wordpress foundation, using it to punish Automattic competitors... He pissed off a lot of people, but worse: he made a lot of people nervous.
- reshlo 1y ago
  If more people valued how others perceive them more than they valued winning, the world would be a better place.
  - mgdev 1y ago
    He should care principally about his customers. That's it.
- bravetraveler 1y ago
  Ignore the financial valuations, man is a worm. I'd call him a 'hack' but that might imply talents given where we are. Through his shitshow, he tried - and failed - to curry favor with an OSS puppet. Not any particular software... like one might think, but the whole "thing". There was never any moment where WPEngine was beholden for offering WordPress services. Everything was strained to the point he was trying to redefine OSS. He got in his way, ours as members of the public, and that of WPEngine. Repeatedly... and I don't see enough reflection/reason from Matt to believe this will change. Personally, I'd hesitate to promote his strategies or skills. Hamfisted is a better message. Or none, take the wind away. We don't want his ambition or to hear about it. It's demonstrably shit. Edit: just in case this needs saying, I've never been affiliated with either company. Don't waste your limited time looking for me, Matt.
solardev 1y ago
Drupal's sudden popularity?

Not especially surprising, but there’s an awfully large elephant in the room that likely directly contributed to this necessity that goes completely unmentioned.

uoaei 1y ago

Is the elephant in the room with us now? (Mind filling in?)

maccard 1y ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y7eyp3zpo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y7eyp3zpo
65 1y ago
Matt Mullenweg is the elephant.
- wiether 1y ago
  Since Matt regularly comments here, and given the expression chosen; I'm pretty certain that they know who the elephant is.
  - chris_wot 1y ago
    Matt commenting here was part of the reason he is in the mess he is in.
  - foobarchu 1y ago
    His account has been inactive for almost all of 2025, I think his legal team must have taken away the password.
    - lolinder 1y ago
      He has alts he uses that are probably still active.
      - deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]
alphager 1y ago
The legal threats against WPEngine and their customers, the lawsuits between WP/Automatic/WPF and WPEngine, the banning of several contributors, the takeover of WP Plugins on WP.org, the shenanigans with several check boxes on the login pages of WP.org.
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  While it wasn't as damaging from a legal or (business) reputational perspective, he also peeked into the Tumblr database in order to doxx people who were making fun of him, which doesn't say great things about his stability or fitness to run a company.
bananapub 1y ago
the author of that email has been having a very public breakdown for months now, mostly consisting of being a prick and trying to harm the community and a competitor.
xd1936 1y ago
https://mullenweg.wtf/ https://mullenweg.wtf/ https://web.archive.org/web/20241026031947/https://bullenweg.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20241026031947/https://bullenweg...
- stevage 1y ago
  Holy moly. I never heard of this drama before. This was crazy: https://www.reddit.com/r/WPDrama/comments/1hlp08d/what_drama_should_i_create_in_2025/ https://www.reddit.com/r/WPDrama/comments/1hlp08d/what_drama...
  - ornornor 1y ago
    That was wild.
deleted 1y ago
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mgdev 1y ago

Matt's only real problem is not owning his ambition openly. Trying to publicly argue the moral high ground was a stupid, unforced error. It didn't need to be moralized at all. Just make the changes you want to make, piss off a vocal minority, then get back to winning and making boatloads of money by executing exceptionally. The problem, I suspect, is that Matt values how certain people perceive him more than he values winning. It's unfortunate, because he's clearly a very good executer and strategist. He's getting in his own way.

KennyBlanken 1y ago
IMHO moralizing wasn't really the problem. The extremely erratic behavior, the ego, the fixation with vengeance, harassing organizations legally using the Wordpress name, abusing his power at the wordpress foundation, using it to punish Automattic competitors... He pissed off a lot of people, but worse: he made a lot of people nervous.
reshlo 1y ago
If more people valued how others perceive them more than they valued winning, the world would be a better place.
- mgdev 1y ago
  He should care principally about his customers. That's it.
bravetraveler 1y ago
Ignore the financial valuations, man is a worm. I'd call him a 'hack' but that might imply talents given where we are. Through his shitshow, he tried - and failed - to curry favor with an OSS puppet. Not any particular software... like one might think, but the whole "thing". There was never any moment where WPEngine was beholden for offering WordPress services. Everything was strained to the point he was trying to redefine OSS. He got in his way, ours as members of the public, and that of WPEngine. Repeatedly... and I don't see enough reflection/reason from Matt to believe this will change. Personally, I'd hesitate to promote his strategies or skills. Hamfisted is a better message. Or none, take the wind away. We don't want his ambition or to hear about it. It's demonstrably shit. Edit: just in case this needs saying, I've never been affiliated with either company. Don't waste your limited time looking for me, Matt.

solardev 1y ago

Drupal's sudden popularity?