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I don't really understand where this fits in the market? It's not as intelligent as the pack leaders and is about onpar with GPT-4o mini. When comparing it to

by icu 1y ago

I don't really understand where this fits in the market? It's not as intelligent as the pack leaders and is about onpar with GPT-4o mini. When comparing it to GPT-4o mini further, while it is a bit faster, GPT-4o mini is a lot more cheaper [Source: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/nova-pro/providers https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/nova-pro/providers]. In terms of value for money, I would probably go with GPT-4o mini and not Nova Pro. Maybe Amazon feels that it needs to have their own offering to stay relevant?

atonse 1y ago
My guess is it's also about enterprise agreements. For many larger enterprises, governments, etc, the barrier to trying these things is to pay for them (new contracts, RFPs, etc). But all of them already have enterprise agreements with MS, Amazon, etc. So there must be some class of customers to whom it's easy to just add this to their AWS bill.
- casper14 1y ago
  This is 100% it
- alach11 1y ago
  These business can easily Anthropic models through AWS Bedrock. All it requires it a simple clickthrough EULA. That's what we do at the F500 non-tech company where I work. The same is true with OpenAI models in Azure. I can't imagine AWS is going to get much usage of these models... but you have start somewhere I guess.
- placardloop 1y ago
  This isn’t an AWS product, it’s Amazon (the non-AWS side). I don’t think this has anything to do with AWS billing. AWS already has Amazon Q, which is its chatbot offering for AWS customers.
  - wiether 1y ago
    I'm sorry? https://aws.amazon.com/ai/generative-ai/nova/ https://aws.amazon.com/ai/generative-ai/nova/
    - placardloop 1y ago
      Amazon Nova is a foundation model created by Amazon and is offered as one of the models you can use in AWS Bedrock, so the model gets a marketing page for it. Note that Llama also has an AWS marketing page (as do other models), but that doesn’t make them AWS products: https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/llama/ https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/llama/ Amazon Nova Chat is a different product that uses Nova, buts it not AWS. Notice that if you try to use Nova Chat, you log in using your Amazon.com account and not an AWS account.
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by icu 1y ago

atonse 1y ago

My guess is it's also about enterprise agreements. For many larger enterprises, governments, etc, the barrier to trying these things is to pay for them (new contracts, RFPs, etc). But all of them already have enterprise agreements with MS, Amazon, etc. So there must be some class of customers to whom it's easy to just add this to their AWS bill.

casper14 1y ago
This is 100% it
alach11 1y ago
These business can easily Anthropic models through AWS Bedrock. All it requires it a simple clickthrough EULA. That's what we do at the F500 non-tech company where I work. The same is true with OpenAI models in Azure. I can't imagine AWS is going to get much usage of these models... but you have start somewhere I guess.
placardloop 1y ago
This isn’t an AWS product, it’s Amazon (the non-AWS side). I don’t think this has anything to do with AWS billing. AWS already has Amazon Q, which is its chatbot offering for AWS customers.
- wiether 1y ago
  I'm sorry? https://aws.amazon.com/ai/generative-ai/nova/ https://aws.amazon.com/ai/generative-ai/nova/
  - placardloop 1y ago
    Amazon Nova is a foundation model created by Amazon and is offered as one of the models you can use in AWS Bedrock, so the model gets a marketing page for it. Note that Llama also has an AWS marketing page (as do other models), but that doesn’t make them AWS products: https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/llama/ https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/llama/ Amazon Nova Chat is a different product that uses Nova, buts it not AWS. Notice that if you try to use Nova Chat, you log in using your Amazon.com account and not an AWS account.
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