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First sentence from wikipedia says: Casey Means is an American functional medicine/holistic medicine physician, entrepreneur and author. https://en.m.wikipedi

First sentence from wikipedia says: Casey Means is an American functional medicine/holistic medicine physician, entrepreneur and author. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Means https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Means

gcanyon 1y ago
I'm more influenced by this passage: Means withdrew from her medical residency at age 30. She has attributed this decision to the lack of training she received about nutrition and the underlying causes of chronic disease. Means dedicated her practice to functional medicine, which focuses on the root causes of disease.
- kwertyoowiyop 1y ago
  As one comedian said: “Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine!”
  - serf 1y ago
    that's cute but how much alternative medicine eventually finds a way into real medicine? in other words : someone telling someone to practice yoga to relax and reduce their heart rate 200 years ago was a quack right up until the point that modern doctors decided to include it in their repertoire? it's a cute joke but it skips over the fact that there seems to be an 'alternative medicine -> real medicine' pipeline, even if a lot of it turns out badly.
    - gcanyon 1y ago
      The actual quote (from memory, but I just listened to the monologue a minute ago): "Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been scientifically proven to work? Medicine!" In other words, the quote is exactly referring to your "pipeline." Tim Minchin's "Storm" monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk
    - cyberax 1y ago
      Medicine as a science didn't exist 200 years ago. Breath exercises, and physical therapy for relaxation were mainstream in 1960-s. > it's a cute joke but it skips over the fact that there seems to be an 'alternative medicine -> real medicine' pipeline Not really. Most of the non-medicine (I refuse to call it "alternative") stays non-medicine: acupuncture, homeopathy, all the "energy meridians" nonsense, ayurveda, alkaline foods, etc. And even with activities like yoga, it's not more effective than other types of similar physical activity. There is some very weak evidence that yoga _with_ physiotherapy might be more effective than just increased levels of physiotherapy.
  - gcanyon 1y ago
    Tim Minchin! (about 4 minutes in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk
- absolutelastone 1y ago
  Well that red flag versus the immediately-preceding passage listing a Doctor of Medicine degree at Stanford Medical School. I looked into one of the links and apparently she pushes fairly mainstream preventive medicine stuff, diet, exercise, and screening tests. The only questionable thing I saw was the continuous glucose monitoring thing which the jury may still be out on when it comes to non-diabetics.
  - nradov 1y ago
    I haven't tried a continuous glucose monitor myself but those non-diabetics who have generally claim that it gave them interesting insights into how their blood glucose level reacted to different foodstuffs and timing of meals. There is a lot of individual variation there due to genetics, lifestyle, gut microbiome, etc. We'll probably never see a large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trial to show that CGM use improves health outcomes for non-diabetics. But for healthy people who already have the basics dialed in, a CGM can probably help them eke out some additional marginal gains.

gcanyon 1y ago

I'm more influenced by this passage: Means withdrew from her medical residency at age 30. She has attributed this decision to the lack of training she received about nutrition and the underlying causes of chronic disease. Means dedicated her practice to functional medicine, which focuses on the root causes of disease.

kwertyoowiyop 1y ago
As one comedian said: “Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine!”
- serf 1y ago
  that's cute but how much alternative medicine eventually finds a way into real medicine? in other words : someone telling someone to practice yoga to relax and reduce their heart rate 200 years ago was a quack right up until the point that modern doctors decided to include it in their repertoire? it's a cute joke but it skips over the fact that there seems to be an 'alternative medicine -> real medicine' pipeline, even if a lot of it turns out badly.
  - gcanyon 1y ago
    The actual quote (from memory, but I just listened to the monologue a minute ago): "Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been scientifically proven to work? Medicine!" In other words, the quote is exactly referring to your "pipeline." Tim Minchin's "Storm" monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk
  - cyberax 1y ago
    Medicine as a science didn't exist 200 years ago. Breath exercises, and physical therapy for relaxation were mainstream in 1960-s. > it's a cute joke but it skips over the fact that there seems to be an 'alternative medicine -> real medicine' pipeline Not really. Most of the non-medicine (I refuse to call it "alternative") stays non-medicine: acupuncture, homeopathy, all the "energy meridians" nonsense, ayurveda, alkaline foods, etc. And even with activities like yoga, it's not more effective than other types of similar physical activity. There is some very weak evidence that yoga _with_ physiotherapy might be more effective than just increased levels of physiotherapy.
- gcanyon 1y ago
  Tim Minchin! (about 4 minutes in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtYkyB35zkk
absolutelastone 1y ago
Well that red flag versus the immediately-preceding passage listing a Doctor of Medicine degree at Stanford Medical School. I looked into one of the links and apparently she pushes fairly mainstream preventive medicine stuff, diet, exercise, and screening tests. The only questionable thing I saw was the continuous glucose monitoring thing which the jury may still be out on when it comes to non-diabetics.
- nradov 1y ago
  I haven't tried a continuous glucose monitor myself but those non-diabetics who have generally claim that it gave them interesting insights into how their blood glucose level reacted to different foodstuffs and timing of meals. There is a lot of individual variation there due to genetics, lifestyle, gut microbiome, etc. We'll probably never see a large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trial to show that CGM use improves health outcomes for non-diabetics. But for healthy people who already have the basics dialed in, a CGM can probably help them eke out some additional marginal gains.