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Religion has no place in school in that context

by inamorty 2y ago

aaomidi 2y ago
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- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Family can be wrong, society exists to protect rights, regardless of parental belief systems.
  - aaomidi 2y ago
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    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      > Societies always have a taste for fascism/authoritarianism. But so too can religious and parental belief systems, so a balance must be struck. Children belong to neither parents nor society, they are simply different guardians and stakeholders of them at different points in their lives.
      - spwa4 2y ago
        I think this attitude is exactly why the birth rates are down so much. Humans are intelligent, and do things for a reason. Including having, or not having, children. There used to be reasons for having children in the west. They were your pension, and they were the financial success of both you personally, your village, even your country. Today such systems survive: certain factions expect to win through children, and see it both as a way to attack and an exploit "against the west" (an exploit against human rights regulations). The most egregious example of that is in Palestine. There, if you have a kid and they attack "the enemy", mostly their mother and father get money for life. The more "enemies" killed, the more money. Paid with UN money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_... (note that the wikipedia article is not accurate. In the description of the fund on the PA website it does NOT say "violence against Israel". It does not even say "Violence against Israeli", although it does refer to persons. Another inaccuracy is that the fund was ended. It was not. It was renamed and the conditions changed, slightly, as discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1ix23s1/mahmoud_abbas_lied_about_ending_payments_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1ix23s1/ma...
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Religion has no place in school in that context

aaomidi 2y ago

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toomuchtodo 2y ago
Family can be wrong, society exists to protect rights, regardless of parental belief systems.
- aaomidi 2y ago
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  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    > Societies always have a taste for fascism/authoritarianism. But so too can religious and parental belief systems, so a balance must be struck. Children belong to neither parents nor society, they are simply different guardians and stakeholders of them at different points in their lives.
    - spwa4 2y ago
      I think this attitude is exactly why the birth rates are down so much. Humans are intelligent, and do things for a reason. Including having, or not having, children. There used to be reasons for having children in the west. They were your pension, and they were the financial success of both you personally, your village, even your country. Today such systems survive: certain factions expect to win through children, and see it both as a way to attack and an exploit "against the west" (an exploit against human rights regulations). The most egregious example of that is in Palestine. There, if you have a kid and they attack "the enemy", mostly their mother and father get money for life. The more "enemies" killed, the more money. Paid with UN money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_... (note that the wikipedia article is not accurate. In the description of the fund on the PA website it does NOT say "violence against Israel". It does not even say "Violence against Israeli", although it does refer to persons. Another inaccuracy is that the fund was ended. It was not. It was renamed and the conditions changed, slightly, as discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1ix23s1/mahmoud_abbas_lied_about_ending_payments_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/1ix23s1/ma...
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