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Rahul Tyagi: Jericho Emails
- vkkan 14y agomore funny thing was at this page http://rahultyagi.net/About%20me.html http://rahultyagi.net/About%20me.html
- robgolding 14y agoIn few years he bang the world wide web with good computer ethical hacking articles!
- wisty 14y agoHostgator. Pretty swish.
- Achshar 14y agoThe about me page has a space in it's name. This is embarrassing.
- m4k 14y agoIts shameful that people like Rahul Tyagi and Ankit Fadia making fool to many organisation and students in India by showing kiddy tricks. Most surprising part is Ankit is getting business and he is teaching Hacking in some of the university in India.
- fredoliveira 14y agoWhen I was working for box.sk (so many years ago) a much younger Ankit submitted several articles to neworder.box.sk. Most of them were lifted verbatim from TCP IP Illustrated. He was exposed back then by our staff, but had a huge following of people who believed it really was his original material - people for whom it was easier to parse random internet articles than pick up a volume like TCP/IP Illustrated. The (now a) man has made a life for himself doing this kind of thing. There's always going to be people like Fadia, and this Rahul. And sadly, there's always going to be people who believe these folks.
- mahmud 14y agoI remember that. At the time was 14, I think, and hyped by Indian press. box was good. respect.
- pm90 14y agoThis is the way things work in India, unfortunately. People are a bit gullible, and don't bother to do a bit of research. For example, when I was in High School, I noticed that nearly all my classmates used Indian ripoffs of classic science books published in the West, instead of using the original. After a bit of digging, I figured the reason was that these ripoffs explained 'concepts' in an 'organised' manner which could then be memorized
- farico 14y agothis made my day, the conversation is so fun :D
- phatbyte 14y agoI couldn't resist, his website is amazingly funny too http://rahultyagi.net/Home.html http://rahultyagi.net/Home.html
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- mr_luc 14y agoWell, one of his sponsors is Lovely Professional University, so you know it's good.
- yogeshkhatri 14y agoand try to click in the submenu that appears on hovering on "Talk to Me". Its tricky.
- pawelwentpawel 14y agoTricky it is indeed. I've opened his twitter profile and apparently he is an Actor, Author, Ethical Hacker, Hardcore Gamer, Motivational Speaker and has 37k followers.
- naiquevin 14y agoand "Mail me" is a link to gmail.com!
- xfax 14y agoI don't know man, I mean, I do want to hack the hackers before they hack me. Don't you?
- jasdeepnarang 14y ago+1 :D
- ceasarjb 14y agoThe Certified Cyber Kid course did it for me. Scroll to the bottom and read the curriculum. http://rahultyagi.net/Courses.html http://rahultyagi.net/Courses.html
- sidmitra 14y agoI'm actually more embarrassed about the level of English this guys uses. Majority of the school education here is in English, atleast in the cities. All of engineering/technical education in India is in English. I can expect the odd mistakes since it's not our first language, and the accent being a problem. But to be considered an expert in the field, i would imagine you should have a firm grasp on the language you use to impart unambiguous, highly technical knowledge.
- delinka 14y agoWhy do that when it's easier to plagiarize good English from elsewhere? What I mean is it's a typical scam artist, too lazy to do anything but take from others.
- pulkit 14y agothat guy jerico has patience!
- peterwwillis 14y agoAnd a ton of free time, apparently.
- nsns 14y agoThe strange fact is that Tyagi isn't offended by anything said about his book, he simply plays for time until he receives assurance that his book (and email conversation!) will be featured on Attrition... He will probably add a link saying, "Featured on Attrition!" hoping none of his clients bothers to read it.
- SudarshanP 14y agoDoes he(Tyagi) get pagerank for this chaos ;-) At least a few guys will link to his site without a rel=nofollow ;-)
- vkkan 14y agoreal funny conversation and still people tap information from various websites but not even giving credit to rightful owners , its shame
- dev_Gabriel 14y agoI want this book so hard! (not)
- simias 14y agoWho are those people? Why is there a smiley in the title? Why is this on the frontpage? I feel I lack some context here.
- Auguste 14y agoThere isn't a lot of context, but the tl;dr is that Attrition.org keeps track of charlatans and plagiarists in the security industry, and Rahul Tyagi is allegedly one of them. * http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ * http://attrition.org/errata/plagiarism/ http://attrition.org/errata/plagiarism/
- drharris 14y agoAgreed. You'd figure with all the title moderation recently, this one would have made the cut.
- jasdeepnarang 14y agoI can point out about 100 more people who are like Rahul and Ankit... :) You should definitely check out the mockery coming out of http://www.defconpunjab.com/ http://www.defconpunjab.com/
- phatbyte 14y agohttp://www.defconpunjab.com/team.html http://www.defconpunjab.com/team.html it really feels like a bad movie cast
- jasdeepnarang 14y agohahahha! I agree!
- Pwntastic 14y agoAre they seriously using one of the official Battlefield 3 wallpapers as their background?
- xfax 14y agoJust did a bit of Googling on Ankit Fadia and Rahul Tyagi. Damn, are these guys really delusional or are they just good at selling themselves? Not that the Indian media helps - they are incredible at chest-thumping at the most mediocre things.
- xfax 14y agoFrom Ankit Fadia's About Me page (http://www.ankitfadia.in/aboutankitfadia.html http://www.ankitfadia.in/aboutankitfadia.html): In November 2001, Fadia was consulted by a classified intelligence agency for breaking an encrypted message sent by one of Osama Bin Laden's men. Since then Fadia has been involved in numerous classified projects pertaining to cyber terrorism and crime. In August 2008, Fadia was consulted by the Navi Mumbai Police Department to trace the terror email sent just a few minutes before the Gujarat serial blasts. Fadia was also consulted by the Mumbai Police for decoding VOIP messages in relation to the Mumbai terror attacks. If this is the state of affairs at the Indian intelligence agencies, perhaps they shouldn't even bother.
- Auguste 14y agoAttrition.org has more details on this claim here: http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/fadia13.html http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/fadia13.ht... "Are we really to believe the U.S. National Security Agency went to a 16 year-old foreign national in India with no published research on encryption to enlist his help decrypting stegonography-hidden messages that used three customized encryption algorithms using just his desktop computer? Absolutely not."
- ranjeet487 14y agoAnkit Fadiya is my Ideal person. I like it. i am also doing Internet security with Ethical Hacker. Ranjeet Kr. Singh B.E. In IT (SBCET, Jaipur) r.singh487@hotmail.com
- FlyingSnake 14y agoThese guys are snake oil salesmen and they fool unsuspecting students and institutes and profit by their naivete. The crap they sell under the name of 'Hacking' is absolutely pathetic and at best they succeed in creating script kiddies. This is not HN worthy, but tangentially all the HNers subconsciously despise idiots like these.
- Achshar 14y agoI am an Indian and i don't think they are any kind of whizkid. They are just good at selling themselves to media and today's generation who happen to think they are computer geniuses. Youth here thinks they are huge deal (i have myself heard about Ankit Fadia a number of times in the wild, always in the context "computer problem? contact Ankit Fadia"). I respect their interest in computers but i blame these men completely for their delusional behavior. Either that or they are hired by some more, uhm, typical hackers to cover for their public image. But i don't think my country's intelligence is this sophisticated because as Ankit Fadia's about me page states, our defense people think decrypting emails is the job of a hacker. God forbid they find out stuxnet or Flame and who their makers are. India has technical talent, but other people here tend to overshadow the small intelligent discussions one can expect.
- Robin_Message 14y agoI love the sentence "i did not cross check from net that whether the content was plagiarized or not". Well, no, the content on the net is not plagiarized – the plagiarism is in copy-pasting it.
- tzaman 14y agoWhat I find most amusing is that many of these self-proclaimed hackers/developers don't get it. You can ask the same question all over again for days only to get off-topic replies. Sadly, most of the ones I dealt with are also based in India.
- Achshar 14y agoI don't claim to be a "hacker" but would just like to say that there are smart people here. They are not just as vocal as these people who, as others have said in this thread, are good at selling themselves to the media.
- manojlds 14y agoQuestion - why don't some of the real hackers take down the sites of these kidies and do the world a service?
- Achshar 14y agoBecause no one visits their sites in the first place? (With the exception of people who want to make fun of them)
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- nsns 14y agoThere isn't exactly a dearth of charlatans in the world. What is striking about this guy is he seems to be completely unaware of being one.
- karolist 14y agoThe level of stupidity is really high in the linked conversation. Seems like this industry is getting overrun by amateurs or simply fakes. My employer paid for CEH course at EC http://www.eccouncil.org/ http://www.eccouncil.org/ The material was simple, inaccurate and outdated, aimed at creating script kiddies at best. And yet organisations happily pay thousands of dollars/pounds for this nonsense. I think anon poster [1] at Quora summarized the course well. "CEH is crap, don't bother and if you take the CEH cert, never tell anybody, they will laugh at you. It's like telling a trucker that you have a license to drive a moped" 1. http://www.quora.com/Is-ECC-Council-Ethical-Hacker-Certification-CEH-worth-it http://www.quora.com/Is-ECC-Council-Ethical-Hacker-Certifica...
- aviraldg 14y agoPeople like this give us Indians a bad name. A (non-technical) friend recently showed me a copy of Ankit Fadia's "email hacking book" and I was shocked to see the quality of material and the things he called "hacking" in that book (connecting to a SMTP server and sending an email with modified headers.) These people need to be exposed for the frauds that they really are. The media doesn't help in all this either. Reporters, even on technical stories have absolutely no idea what they're writing about, leading to stories like Ankit Fadia and his supposed decryption of messages from Osama Bin-laden.
- sdiwakar 14y agoI agree, there are hundreds of guys in India that are doing a great job advancing the stated of the art - and you'll never hear a peep from any of them. Ankit and Rahul are just good at talking themselves up. There are plenty of people in InfoSec that excel at marketing themselves. Worst of all, they are an embarrassment to the intelligence agencies they have purportedly worked for. I have no doubt in my mind that a graduate beginning her infosec career at the NSA, DSD, GCHQ, RAW, Mossad or other intelligence agency would show a better understanding of fundamental security concepts than these fuddiduddies.
- bardoloi 14y agoPlagiarism is a common occurrence in India. There is very little original research work in universities and Intellectual Property laws are rarely enforced. Ergo, every two-bit college professor regularly "authors" books to supplement their paltry income. These are mostly marketed to their own students as a way to pass exams, and nobody claims to have done the original research. Guys like Rahul Tyagi and Ankit Fadia just had the chutzpah to believe their own hype. The real worrisome fact is that nobody in Corporate India knows enough about security to call out these charlatans.
- landhar 14y agoAnyone has the link to the article jericho promised to write ?