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NIH's 15% Indirect Spending Cuts Hurt Hard Tech Startups

7 points by Rhea_Karty 2y ago

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jaybrendansmith 2y ago
I love the first line: "Recent laws from the Executive branch". LOL. The Executive Branch cannot make laws per the constitution. These are lawbreakers.
- docdeek 2y ago
  Seems likely to be a poorly chosen word in the sentence - directive or regulation might have been better.
  - MarcieRBlack 2y ago
    Thank you for your suggestion. I edited to the post to use "regulation" instead of "law."
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  Which law said the overhead rate had to be 50%+?
syndicatedjelly 2y ago
How is PTO an “indirect cost”, when salary is a direct cost? The company pays a salary to an employee, which includes time off. Is there a separate accounting rule for PTO that moves it to the indirect category? Another option is to hire the employee as a contractor and let them deal with their own benefits and time off. What am I not understanding here?
- jltsiren 2y ago
  There are different definitions of direct and indirect costs. According to the strictest definition, only billable hours are direct costs. All other costs of employment are indirect. But at least for applications from the academia, NIH considers indirect costs of employment direct costs. Grants are not money you can use the way you see fit. If the budget includes funds for hiring employees, you cannot use them to hire contractors. You can use the money as originally requested, return it, or apply for a permission to change the budget. You can make minor changes on your own, but not major changes such as hiring a third party to do a substantial part of the work.
- MarcieRBlack 2y ago
  There are many reasons why I wouldn't hire everyone else in my company as a contractor. One reason is that this is bad for the employee/contractor. I wouldn't be able to give that person benefits for example. I need to attract the best people to my company and that means giving them fair compensation including benefits. Yes, PTO does go into indirect costs and can not go into direct costs. Labor is separated out by hours worked for each customer. Any PTO of time working on indirect, those hours can not be billed to a customer.

7 points by Rhea_Karty 2y ago

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I love the first line: "Recent laws from the Executive branch". LOL. The Executive Branch cannot make laws per the constitution. These are lawbreakers.

docdeek 2y ago
Seems likely to be a poorly chosen word in the sentence - directive or regulation might have been better.
- MarcieRBlack 2y ago
  Thank you for your suggestion. I edited to the post to use "regulation" instead of "law."
readthenotes1 2y ago
Which law said the overhead rate had to be 50%+?

syndicatedjelly 2y ago

How is PTO an “indirect cost”, when salary is a direct cost? The company pays a salary to an employee, which includes time off. Is there a separate accounting rule for PTO that moves it to the indirect category? Another option is to hire the employee as a contractor and let them deal with their own benefits and time off. What am I not understanding here?

jltsiren 2y ago
There are different definitions of direct and indirect costs. According to the strictest definition, only billable hours are direct costs. All other costs of employment are indirect. But at least for applications from the academia, NIH considers indirect costs of employment direct costs. Grants are not money you can use the way you see fit. If the budget includes funds for hiring employees, you cannot use them to hire contractors. You can use the money as originally requested, return it, or apply for a permission to change the budget. You can make minor changes on your own, but not major changes such as hiring a third party to do a substantial part of the work.
MarcieRBlack 2y ago
There are many reasons why I wouldn't hire everyone else in my company as a contractor. One reason is that this is bad for the employee/contractor. I wouldn't be able to give that person benefits for example. I need to attract the best people to my company and that means giving them fair compensation including benefits. Yes, PTO does go into indirect costs and can not go into direct costs. Labor is separated out by hours worked for each customer. Any PTO of time working on indirect, those hours can not be billed to a customer.