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Who can she a light on where these claims „far right forces“ originate? What were these spam emails saying?

0xC0ncord 2y ago
I received an email this morning where someone created an issue in a public repo with a title containing a racial slur and mentioning a bunch of users, including me. This is just one example as far as I know.
traverseda 2y ago
Got stuck in my spam folder, but for posterity. I've censored the N word out of this, it was uncensored in the email. Also other people's names > [truth/truth] N***R BALLS (Issue #303) > { A list of a bunch of users } The email I received had no further context or content.
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KomoD 2y ago
The emails were just "[truth/truth] (SLUR) BALLS (Issue #849)" "@truth mentioned you: (100 users mentioned with @)"
theultdev 2y ago
Seems like edge-lord spam mischaracterized as "far right"
- sundaeofshock 2y ago
  What’s the difference between?
  - theultdev 2y ago
    I've heard plenty of "far-left" people use slurs, including n*****. Using a slur is not indicative of a political leaning, it's an indication of your edge-lord status.
    - sundaeofshock 2y ago
      If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole, I’m going to assume they are a right-wing asshole. If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.
      - tanseydavid 2y ago
        This is circular reasoning -- a tautology.
        sundaeofshock 2y ago
        No, it’s abductive reasoning. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
        wtfwhateven 2y ago
        No it's not.
      - theultdev 2y ago
        > If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole my point was people of all political leanings can act like this. it's not exclusive to "far-right" people. > If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior. they don't care. that's why they're trolling
    - mariusor 2y ago
      I feel like this kind of statement requires a little more details to back it up. And, to use a hot take here, I believe that the "left to right" political axis can be simplified using a "I believe I am better than X" statement, where X is a set of people(s), that grows ever wider the further right you go. Therefore a person on the "far left" of the axis would complete the sentence as "I believe I am better than nobody" and thus it's not really plausible that they would need slurs to talk about others. I realize that this sounds a little of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, but people saying they are something, does not make them that something unless backed up by actions/beliefs. Using slurs is antithetic to being any kind of left, not just "far", so I suspect you might have met someone confused about things.
  - blueflow 2y ago
    Reversed question: How do they even relate? One is intentionally violating customs/manners, the other is a political orientation.
    - consumer451 2y ago
      What’s the difference between?
- nixah 2y ago
  These spammers also spammed threats to Codeberg users that maintain projects that advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc and collect facts/data against hate and discrimination. The content of those threats are how we know those spammers are far-right forces. The spam email notification was just a side-thing the spammers did to get more attention.
sieabahlpark 2y ago
They want to feel validated with identity politics first and foremost. Creating additional distance from the bad words so people who care about identity politics are comforted.
nixah 2y ago
These forces made spam accounts that spammed threats/insults in issue trackers and pull requests on projects that collect facts and resources against hate and discrimination and advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc on Codeberg. Some of the same spam accounts were behind the spam notification emails. Also, because of the timing of the DDoS attack, they are likely be behind the DDoS attack as well, although that's not for sure. So we know they're far-right forces because of what they said in their threats to Codeberg users. The blog post mentions this but doesn't explicitly list the projects that were threatened so they don't continue to get spammed.

I received an email this morning where someone created an issue in a public repo with a title containing a racial slur and mentioning a bunch of users, including me. This is just one example as far as I know.

traverseda 2y ago

Got stuck in my spam folder, but for posterity. I've censored the N word out of this, it was uncensored in the email. Also other people's names > [truth/truth] N***R BALLS (Issue #303) > { A list of a bunch of users } The email I received had no further context or content.

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KomoD 2y ago

The emails were just "[truth/truth] (SLUR) BALLS (Issue #849)" "@truth mentioned you: (100 users mentioned with @)"

theultdev 2y ago

Seems like edge-lord spam mischaracterized as "far right"

sundaeofshock 2y ago
What’s the difference between?
- theultdev 2y ago
  I've heard plenty of "far-left" people use slurs, including n*****. Using a slur is not indicative of a political leaning, it's an indication of your edge-lord status.
  - sundaeofshock 2y ago
    If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole, I’m going to assume they are a right-wing asshole. If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior.
    - tanseydavid 2y ago
      This is circular reasoning -- a tautology.
      - sundaeofshock 2y ago
        No, it’s abductive reasoning. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
      - wtfwhateven 2y ago
        No it's not.
    - theultdev 2y ago
      > If a person is acting like a right-wing asshole my point was people of all political leanings can act like this. it's not exclusive to "far-right" people. > If they don’t like that, they should change their behavior. they don't care. that's why they're trolling
  - mariusor 2y ago
    I feel like this kind of statement requires a little more details to back it up. And, to use a hot take here, I believe that the "left to right" political axis can be simplified using a "I believe I am better than X" statement, where X is a set of people(s), that grows ever wider the further right you go. Therefore a person on the "far left" of the axis would complete the sentence as "I believe I am better than nobody" and thus it's not really plausible that they would need slurs to talk about others. I realize that this sounds a little of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, but people saying they are something, does not make them that something unless backed up by actions/beliefs. Using slurs is antithetic to being any kind of left, not just "far", so I suspect you might have met someone confused about things.
- blueflow 2y ago
  Reversed question: How do they even relate? One is intentionally violating customs/manners, the other is a political orientation.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    What’s the difference between?
nixah 2y ago
These spammers also spammed threats to Codeberg users that maintain projects that advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc and collect facts/data against hate and discrimination. The content of those threats are how we know those spammers are far-right forces. The spam email notification was just a side-thing the spammers did to get more attention.

sieabahlpark 2y ago

They want to feel validated with identity politics first and foremost. Creating additional distance from the bad words so people who care about identity politics are comforted.

nixah 2y ago

These forces made spam accounts that spammed threats/insults in issue trackers and pull requests on projects that collect facts and resources against hate and discrimination and advocate for human rights, trans rights, etc on Codeberg. Some of the same spam accounts were behind the spam notification emails. Also, because of the timing of the DDoS attack, they are likely be behind the DDoS attack as well, although that's not for sure. So we know they're far-right forces because of what they said in their threats to Codeberg users. The blog post mentions this but doesn't explicitly list the projects that were threatened so they don't continue to get spammed.