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IMO US elections have already been less-than-fully-democratic for a while, what with the voting registration and ID nonsense, as well as obvious gerrymandering

IMO US elections have already been less-than-fully-democratic for a while, what with the voting registration and ID nonsense, as well as obvious gerrymandering and voter intimidation. At the very least, significantly less democratic than a number of other western countries.

scarface_74 2y ago
Let’s stop applying copium to recent events and making excuses. The American people knew exactly what they were getting and voted for him anyway. He won a majority of the popular vote. The Senate is 2 Senators per state regardless of the population and isn’t as susceptible to gerrymandering. That being said, I don’t feel bad for anyone who voted for Trump and is having buyers remorse. We are already seeing it with Arabs in Minnesota who thought Trump would be better for Arabs in Gaza and are now having regrets seeing how Trump wants to use US troops to “clear out Gaza” and Latin Americans who are appalled that he tried to remove birthright citizenship. Next up will be all of the “rural American” voters who are going to bare the brunt of inflationary tariffs.
- sundaeofshock 2y ago
  He did not get a majority of the vote. He won with a plurality of 49.8%.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Does that somehow make you feel better about your fellow Americans? Yes I’m a born and bred US citizen. The crap that Michelle Obama and the rest of the DNC spew about “going high when they go low” and “this is not who we are” is just that. This has always been who we are.
    - naijaboiler 2y ago
      This is exactly who we are. Andrew Jackson was the most popular president of the 19th century. When national guard troops shot and killed student at Kent state university protesting Vietnam, 58% of Americans were in support of it. Yes this is who we are.
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        And Jim Crow laws… 60% of the people in the south supported them and 60% of people nationwide were opposed to interracial marriages.
    - sundaeofshock 2y ago
      No it does not make me feel better. I’m rather disgusted by 70 million of my fellow Americans, including a few family members and newly former friends. However, I think it’s important that we pushback on the idea that the fascists have an overwhelming mandate to do what they are now doing. The truth still matters.

scarface_74 2y ago

Let’s stop applying copium to recent events and making excuses. The American people knew exactly what they were getting and voted for him anyway. He won a majority of the popular vote. The Senate is 2 Senators per state regardless of the population and isn’t as susceptible to gerrymandering. That being said, I don’t feel bad for anyone who voted for Trump and is having buyers remorse. We are already seeing it with Arabs in Minnesota who thought Trump would be better for Arabs in Gaza and are now having regrets seeing how Trump wants to use US troops to “clear out Gaza” and Latin Americans who are appalled that he tried to remove birthright citizenship. Next up will be all of the “rural American” voters who are going to bare the brunt of inflationary tariffs.

sundaeofshock 2y ago
He did not get a majority of the vote. He won with a plurality of 49.8%.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Does that somehow make you feel better about your fellow Americans? Yes I’m a born and bred US citizen. The crap that Michelle Obama and the rest of the DNC spew about “going high when they go low” and “this is not who we are” is just that. This has always been who we are.
  - naijaboiler 2y ago
    This is exactly who we are. Andrew Jackson was the most popular president of the 19th century. When national guard troops shot and killed student at Kent state university protesting Vietnam, 58% of Americans were in support of it. Yes this is who we are.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      And Jim Crow laws… 60% of the people in the south supported them and 60% of people nationwide were opposed to interracial marriages.
  - sundaeofshock 2y ago
    No it does not make me feel better. I’m rather disgusted by 70 million of my fellow Americans, including a few family members and newly former friends. However, I think it’s important that we pushback on the idea that the fascists have an overwhelming mandate to do what they are now doing. The truth still matters.