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Reposting because my previous comment was unjustly flagged: The US just facilitated a genocide in the previous administration. This is not just me saying this -

by mjfl 2y ago

Reposting because my previous comment was unjustly flagged: The US just facilitated a genocide in the previous administration. This is not just me saying this - this is the consensus ruling of the International Court of Justice at the UN.

emmelaich 2y ago
ICJ has not done so; it will take years to make a determination. (And it should fail IMHO). And I don't think that the US was mentioned by the ICJ, even if it had confirmed genocide.
- mjfl 2y ago
  they ruled that it was plausible enough to pursue the case
freshpots 2y ago
Barring all of the hyperbole of your comment, I find it astounding how you're unaware of this with such a "thumb on the pulse" of world news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/feb/04/benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-israel-gaza-middle-east-ceasefire-latest-live-news https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/feb/04/benjamin-... Trump said Palestinians have “no alternative” but to “permanently” leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas. He described Gaza as a “pure demolition site” and claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”. “I don’t know how they could want to stay,” he said. Trump’s comments marked the first time he has publicly floated the permanent relocation of Palestinians from Gaza. The US president’s remarks in effect endorsed ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries. Trump is literally for completely ridding Gaza of the Palestinians so Israel can colonize it. An ACTUAL genocide.
- tehjoker 2y ago
  > Trump is literally for completely ridding Gaza of the Palestinians so Israel can colonize it. An ACTUAL genocide. This was the goal of the Biden administration. The difference now is that without Israel demolishing Gaza every day, the resistance has demonstrated they cannot be dislodged. Trump has no credibility. They simply cannot do it and both the U.S. and Israeli officials that enabled this are war criminals that should be prosecuted immediately.
  - mjfl 2y ago
    Hasbara bots are out in extreme force.
    - tehjoker 2y ago
      you said it brother (or sister)
- mjfl 2y ago
  The consensus ruling of the International Court of Justice is not hyperbole, it's a fact. Are you going to call the UN antisemitic like Benjamin Netanyahu did? And actually, you in fact can argue that Trump has been better on the issue than Biden. Multiple news outlets have reported that it was Trump that forced the ceasefire: - https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-forced-netanyahu-to-make-a-deal-with-the-devil-israel-hamas-db48045f https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-forced-netanyahu-to-make-a... - https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64825 https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64825 - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-13/ty-article/.premium/trumps-mideast-envoy-forced-netanyahu-to-accept-a-gaza-plan-he-repeatedly-rejected/00000194-615c-d4d0-a1f4-fbfdce850000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-13/ty-article/.p... - https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-swayed-netanyahu-more-in-one-meeting-than-biden-did-all-year/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-sway... Everything you find with regarding Trump is rhetoric while his actions have been much more peaceful than Biden's. Which brings me back to my main point: it's absurd and hysterical to be claiming that Trump is uniquely fascist here. Whoever is freaking out now about him, and was not freaking out about Biden, is a fraud and should be called out as a fraud.
  - lern_too_spel 2y ago
    The US was telling Israel to hold back and trying to get aid into Gaza. That's not happening anymore. https://abcnews.go.com/International/shutting-usaid-major-impacts-gaza-aid/story?id=118393336 https://abcnews.go.com/International/shutting-usaid-major-im... The US was in favor of a two state solution. The US is now saying that half of one state, by population, is no longer available. It's clear to anyone with two neurons to rub together that the other half is gone within the next four years.
  - myvoiceismypass 2y ago
    Kinda amazing that Trump had been acting as de facto president all year even before the election - telling Congress what to do, meeting with Netanyahu, Putin, tons of other heads of state, and he now suggests that Israel just get handed Gaza. Just like Bibby wanted.

by mjfl 2y ago

emmelaich 2y ago

ICJ has not done so; it will take years to make a determination. (And it should fail IMHO). And I don't think that the US was mentioned by the ICJ, even if it had confirmed genocide.

mjfl 2y ago
they ruled that it was plausible enough to pursue the case

freshpots 2y ago

Barring all of the hyperbole of your comment, I find it astounding how you're unaware of this with such a "thumb on the pulse" of world news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/feb/04/benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-israel-gaza-middle-east-ceasefire-latest-live-news https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/feb/04/benjamin-... Trump said Palestinians have “no alternative” but to “permanently” leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas. He described Gaza as a “pure demolition site” and claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”. “I don’t know how they could want to stay,” he said. Trump’s comments marked the first time he has publicly floated the permanent relocation of Palestinians from Gaza. The US president’s remarks in effect endorsed ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries. Trump is literally for completely ridding Gaza of the Palestinians so Israel can colonize it. An ACTUAL genocide.

tehjoker 2y ago
> Trump is literally for completely ridding Gaza of the Palestinians so Israel can colonize it. An ACTUAL genocide. This was the goal of the Biden administration. The difference now is that without Israel demolishing Gaza every day, the resistance has demonstrated they cannot be dislodged. Trump has no credibility. They simply cannot do it and both the U.S. and Israeli officials that enabled this are war criminals that should be prosecuted immediately.
- mjfl 2y ago
  Hasbara bots are out in extreme force.
  - tehjoker 2y ago
    you said it brother (or sister)
mjfl 2y ago
The consensus ruling of the International Court of Justice is not hyperbole, it's a fact. Are you going to call the UN antisemitic like Benjamin Netanyahu did? And actually, you in fact can argue that Trump has been better on the issue than Biden. Multiple news outlets have reported that it was Trump that forced the ceasefire: - https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-forced-netanyahu-to-make-a-deal-with-the-devil-israel-hamas-db48045f https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-forced-netanyahu-to-make-a... - https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64825 https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64825 - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-13/ty-article/.premium/trumps-mideast-envoy-forced-netanyahu-to-accept-a-gaza-plan-he-repeatedly-rejected/00000194-615c-d4d0-a1f4-fbfdce850000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-13/ty-article/.p... - https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-swayed-netanyahu-more-in-one-meeting-than-biden-did-all-year/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-sway... Everything you find with regarding Trump is rhetoric while his actions have been much more peaceful than Biden's. Which brings me back to my main point: it's absurd and hysterical to be claiming that Trump is uniquely fascist here. Whoever is freaking out now about him, and was not freaking out about Biden, is a fraud and should be called out as a fraud.
- lern_too_spel 2y ago
  The US was telling Israel to hold back and trying to get aid into Gaza. That's not happening anymore. https://abcnews.go.com/International/shutting-usaid-major-impacts-gaza-aid/story?id=118393336 https://abcnews.go.com/International/shutting-usaid-major-im... The US was in favor of a two state solution. The US is now saying that half of one state, by population, is no longer available. It's clear to anyone with two neurons to rub together that the other half is gone within the next four years.
- myvoiceismypass 2y ago
  Kinda amazing that Trump had been acting as de facto president all year even before the election - telling Congress what to do, meeting with Netanyahu, Putin, tons of other heads of state, and he now suggests that Israel just get handed Gaza. Just like Bibby wanted.