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Is this "deep research" tool exploiting open knowledge creators, using their work without compensation?

by febin 2y ago

johnneville 2y ago
would it be open knowledge if it required payment to access ?
scarab92 2y ago
Are you exploiting open knowledge creators, using their work without compensation?
- febin 2y ago
  The creators are aware that a human is using this, can we say the same for AI, does it have their consent?
  - handfuloflight 2y ago
    Then consent is granted by transitive property because these AI are yielded by humans.
    - hnisoss 2y ago
      Yea but guy paying closedai to get "insights" that basically copy-pasted content from my blog is definitely violating my blogs copyright, and in the end no coin comes to me either. What about that?
      - handfuloflight 2y ago
        Could you provide an example where OpenAI outputting verbatim quotes actually constitutes the copyright violation? Because mechanically retrieving relevant quotes seems analogous to grep/search - the copyright status would depend on how downstream users transform and use that content. Like how quoting your blog in a technical analysis or critique is fair use, but wholesale republishing isn't. This suggests the violation occurs at usage time, not retrieval time.
tmnvdb 2y ago
How is using public information "exploitation"? A human researcher with Google would do the same.
- hnisoss 2y ago
  So its fine for OpenAI to effectively sell your CC BY-NC content to others?
protocolture 2y ago
You exploited my eyes by making me read this comment. Wheres my compensation.
hnisoss 2y ago
Of course. It's a child's play for SamA et al.
febin 2y ago
I see many are offended, but I am genuinely asking a question. I want to understand does this mean it's ethical for anyone to create a research AI tool that will go through arXiv and related GitHub repo and use it to solve problems, implement ideas like cursor.
rapjr9 2y ago
It is also an agent, so it is using you without compensation for your work.

Is this "deep research" tool exploiting open knowledge creators, using their work without compensation?

by febin 2y ago

Is this "deep research" tool exploiting open knowledge creators, using their work without compensation?

johnneville 2y ago

would it be open knowledge if it required payment to access ?

scarab92 2y ago

Are you exploiting open knowledge creators, using their work without compensation?

febin 2y ago
The creators are aware that a human is using this, can we say the same for AI, does it have their consent?
- handfuloflight 2y ago
  Then consent is granted by transitive property because these AI are yielded by humans.
  - hnisoss 2y ago
    Yea but guy paying closedai to get "insights" that basically copy-pasted content from my blog is definitely violating my blogs copyright, and in the end no coin comes to me either. What about that?
    - handfuloflight 2y ago
      Could you provide an example where OpenAI outputting verbatim quotes actually constitutes the copyright violation? Because mechanically retrieving relevant quotes seems analogous to grep/search - the copyright status would depend on how downstream users transform and use that content. Like how quoting your blog in a technical analysis or critique is fair use, but wholesale republishing isn't. This suggests the violation occurs at usage time, not retrieval time.

tmnvdb 2y ago

How is using public information "exploitation"? A human researcher with Google would do the same.

hnisoss 2y ago
So its fine for OpenAI to effectively sell your CC BY-NC content to others?

protocolture 2y ago

You exploited my eyes by making me read this comment. Wheres my compensation.

hnisoss 2y ago

Of course. It's a child's play for SamA et al.

febin 2y ago

I see many are offended, but I am genuinely asking a question. I want to understand does this mean it's ethical for anyone to create a research AI tool that will go through arXiv and related GitHub repo and use it to solve problems, implement ideas like cursor.

rapjr9 2y ago

It is also an agent, so it is using you without compensation for your work.