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> I don't think most rationalists would consider themselves leftist Yes they do. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf5FqX6XBJlfOShMd3UKmQTKiXjM92p3dtyy
by slooonz 2y ago
> I don't think most rationalists would consider themselves leftist
Yes they do.
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- Trasmatta 2y ago[flagged]
- postepowanieadm 2y agoDoes it really matter? Nazis called themselves socialists.
- baobabKoodaa 2y agono true scotsman
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- keybored 2y agoNorth Korea is a democratic people’s republic.
- keybored 2y agoI regret saying this as a joke since I don’t know enough about North Korea. Even to make jokes about it.
- affinepplan 2y agoliberal is not leftist
- dmix 2y agoIt says liberal “as in US Democratic Party” at 35% and social democrat at 2nd with 29% and Marxist at what looks like 2-3% so an easy majority (for this survey at least) the rest are libertarian, then Neo reactionary, and alt right in descending order
- wahnfrieden 2y ago1.6% Marxist Did you confuse Liberal with Leftist? Liberals are anti-left Some portion are Libertarian but there's no distinction between so-called "ancap" and libcom so that one is murky or more often coded for the former (the Libertarian party in the US is anti-left)
- neves 2y agoJust in USA Liberals are considered leftist
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Just in USA Liberals are considered leftist Well, for a period of time liberals were the left. In the last decade or so the illiberal left has come up in opposition to the illiberal right, the latter matching the former’s hypocrisy in false promises of equality (while driving division) with false promises of freedom (while expanding the rulebook).
- keybored 2y agoThat’s just Culture War terms. And identification according to others (illiberal this or that) is often agenda-driven. Self-identification is confused enough but identifying others is even more muddled.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Culture War terms Sure. The Culture War’s belligerents are all, generally speaking, illiberal. And notably, most people steeped in it reject the term. Even those on the left.
- keybored 2y agoSo what are they supposed to do then. The right makes a mountain out of a molehill. That happens to target some group, like a minority. Those on the left who reject the Culture War argue against it since they think the right’s focus will hurt the minority. They argue that the right is making a mountain out of a molehill. And yet they are now participating, begrudgingly. What are they supposed to do.
- moolcool 2y agoA naive observer would look at these numbers and say “wow, I am unsurprised that this movement is made mostly of straight white American male tech workers”. Anyone reaching that conclusion though, would be a fool! For they would have forgotten to apply Bayes Theorem.