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To quote the order itself: > This order does not apply to military personnel of the armed forces or to positions related to immigration enforcement, national s

To quote the order itself: > This order does not apply to military personnel of the armed forces or to positions related to immigration enforcement, national security, or public safety. ATC surely falls under public safety. Additionally, the ATC issues stretch well back into the Biden term, and you can find plenty of articles discussing the controversy elsewhere.

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int0x29 2y ago
I get a strong sense that they don't actually know what they cut as they stopped paying to guard ISIL prisoners. I could very easily see ATC getting hit by accident. Generally this administration neither thinks nor plans before acting https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2025/01/28/the-isis-prison-break-trump-almost-risked-00195922 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily...
- rayiner 2y ago
  That article is propaganda from the same people who brought you the Iraq War. That’s exactly the sort of funding spigot we should be stopping so we can figure out what the hell is going on. Why the hell are we paying for prison guards in Syria? At one point CIA backed militias in Syria were fighting DOD backed militias: https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-... Everyone obviously wants to use critical services as a shield to avoid scrutiny on them. But by all indications the administration was ready to go on day 1, and insofar as stuff is being cut or halted a decision was made to allow that to happen.
  - philistine 2y ago
    So the LA Times is not part of the propaganda that brought us the Iraq War? And the US must, must at all cost, stop paying for prison guards to figure it out? There's no other way to just ... figure it out? You know, by studying the situation?
    - rayiner 2y ago
      I’m begging you to read Manufacturing Consent. And when has “studying the situation” ever worked to make the government stop wasting money destroying the Middle East? Obama promised to change this stuff, and he couldn’t do it, because he innately trusted the same people who made the mistakes to “study” how to fix them.
      - philistine 2y ago
        I can't believe you agree with the premise of Manufacturing Consent and the goals of the administration. They're manufacturing consent to a massive power grab from Congress. The consent to an American King is being manufactured in front of our very eyes.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    I don't know what was going on with Syria, sounds real bad, but your claim about the administration having clear plans they're executing from day 1 is clearly false. This is sourced reporting, not analysis: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/omb-white-house/681506/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/omb-whi...
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allemagne 2y ago
"Surely"? This is only a few days after a change of administration along with sweeping government changes. Don't you think it's worth asking questions a little more deeply than this?

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int0x29 2y ago

I get a strong sense that they don't actually know what they cut as they stopped paying to guard ISIL prisoners. I could very easily see ATC getting hit by accident. Generally this administration neither thinks nor plans before acting https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2025/01/28/the-isis-prison-break-trump-almost-risked-00195922 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily...

rayiner 2y ago
That article is propaganda from the same people who brought you the Iraq War. That’s exactly the sort of funding spigot we should be stopping so we can figure out what the hell is going on. Why the hell are we paying for prison guards in Syria? At one point CIA backed militias in Syria were fighting DOD backed militias: https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-... Everyone obviously wants to use critical services as a shield to avoid scrutiny on them. But by all indications the administration was ready to go on day 1, and insofar as stuff is being cut or halted a decision was made to allow that to happen.
- philistine 2y ago
  So the LA Times is not part of the propaganda that brought us the Iraq War? And the US must, must at all cost, stop paying for prison guards to figure it out? There's no other way to just ... figure it out? You know, by studying the situation?
  - rayiner 2y ago
    I’m begging you to read Manufacturing Consent. And when has “studying the situation” ever worked to make the government stop wasting money destroying the Middle East? Obama promised to change this stuff, and he couldn’t do it, because he innately trusted the same people who made the mistakes to “study” how to fix them.
    - philistine 2y ago
      I can't believe you agree with the premise of Manufacturing Consent and the goals of the administration. They're manufacturing consent to a massive power grab from Congress. The consent to an American King is being manufactured in front of our very eyes.
- tptacek 2y ago
  I don't know what was going on with Syria, sounds real bad, but your claim about the administration having clear plans they're executing from day 1 is clearly false. This is sourced reporting, not analysis: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/omb-white-house/681506/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/omb-whi...
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allemagne 2y ago

"Surely"? This is only a few days after a change of administration along with sweeping government changes. Don't you think it's worth asking questions a little more deeply than this?