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Firefox 16 unprefix CSS Gradients, Animations, Transitions & Transforms

61 points by lillycat 14y ago

hopefully 14y ago
Ohhh, how long have I waited for this moment.
ck2 14y ago
Proving what time of day you submit on HN is critical http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4278862 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4278862 Still, good information to know.
- lillycat 14y ago
  And I did a search before to post!
  - ck2 14y ago
    No worries.
kibwen 14y ago
The new developer command-line interface (Shift+F2) looks really neat, though I'll have to play with it to see if it really turns out to be useful. Here's a list of commands: addon - Manipulate add-ons break - Manage breakpoints calllog - Commands to manipulate function call logging console - Commands to control the console cookie - Display and alter cookies dbg - Manage debugger edit - Tweak a page resource export - Export resources firebug - Web Development Evolved help - Get help on the available commands inspect - Inspect a node pagemod - Make page changes pref - Commands to control settings resize - Control Responsive Design Mode restart - Restart Firefox screenshot - Save an image of the page tilt - Visualize the webpage in 3D
- derpmeister 14y ago
  Thanks! They should disable the flyout completion for now, though. It causes the input box to lose focus, can't type a command with that.
gioele 14y ago
For all the lovers of the "prefixes are not useful, just do without them": > Also the <angle> changed: before, 0deg pointed to the right; now it points, consistently with other angles in the CSS spec, to the top.
- tomjen3 14y ago
  Which is consistent with how all the other browser does it. And I don't doubt that the prefix debacle is the reason they are getting rid of them now.
  - lillycat 14y ago
    No, Opera and Microsoft are implementing the new syntax too (IE 10 unprefixed and Presto 2.12, which is under development, too). Hopefully WebKit will follow soon (if somebody has the bug#, I'm interested)
MatthewPhillips 14y ago
> IndexedDB has reached Candidate Recommendation status and has been unprefixed too. This is amazing. Folks, this is far more important than CSS. Firefox has the most complete implementation of IndexedDB. More than anything else, it is what will enable us to write completely client-side applications.
- jmillikin 14y ago
  > More than anything else, it is what will enable us to > write completely client-side applications. It seems to me that developers have been writing completely client-side applications for forty years.
Kilimanjaro 14y ago
My blood boils every time I see an odd change in a perfectly fine way of doing things. Compare this: linear-gradient(top,#fff,#000) to this linear-gradient(to bottom,#fff,#000) Why?
- lillycat 14y ago
  The CSS WG wanted that both the <angle> and the keywords to be consistent: both are indicating a direction now. The 'to' was added in order to let the old and new syntax coexist during the transition time.
PaulHoule 14y ago
ugh... i'd like to see firefox slow down with the features and focus on stability. firefox seems to be in the same boat as microsoft office, eclipse, gnome, and almost all GUI software. each new version adds meaningless features while bugs proliferate unchecked. (Given that this problem affects GUI apps of all kinds, perhaps it can't be solved?) the latest thing that drives me up the wall about Firefox is that it's continually alerting me that my "plug ins are out of date" but as of the last few months the "plug in update" procedures are all broken -- I'm scared to update Java because the last time I did that I broke all my Java apps, and it seems like updates to Adobe products on windows don't work at all today.
- sp332 14y ago
  "Each version adds meaningless features" This is because the new rapid-release system lets them publish each feature as soon as it is ready. Since big features generally take longer, it's not surprising that each little release has fewer big features.
funksta 14y ago
I can't tell from the post, but is the <angle> argument for linear gradients still optional? Ie. is the following still valid? linear-gradient(#fff, #eee)
- Skalman 14y ago
  Yes, that works in my Firefox 16.
  - funksta 14y ago
    Great, thanks! I find I use top-to-bottom gradients about 90% of the time, so I'm glad the succinct form is still valid.
Killswitch 14y ago
Bad timing on the naming... Aurora?
- andrewstewart 14y ago
  Firefox Aurora has existed for the last few years. It's their preview release of stuff, equivalent to Chrome Canary.
  - Killswitch 14y ago
    Yes, but in light of the current events, you'd think it'd be changed.
    - specto 14y ago
      Why, this is a browser, not some evil plot? They could dedicate it if they wanted to.
      - Killswitch 14y ago
        No, but at the same time, it's just respectful to not keep the codename of a project that is related to such a tragic event.
        yen223 14y ago
        My heart goes out to the victims and their families of the Aurora incident. However, "Aurora" as a name is simply too common to be replaced.

61 points by lillycat 14y ago

Ohhh, how long have I waited for this moment.

ck2 14y ago

Proving what time of day you submit on HN is critical http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4278862 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4278862 Still, good information to know.

lillycat 14y ago
And I did a search before to post!
- ck2 14y ago
  No worries.

kibwen 14y ago

The new developer command-line interface (Shift+F2) looks really neat, though I'll have to play with it to see if it really turns out to be useful. Here's a list of commands: addon - Manipulate add-ons break - Manage breakpoints calllog - Commands to manipulate function call logging console - Commands to control the console cookie - Display and alter cookies dbg - Manage debugger edit - Tweak a page resource export - Export resources firebug - Web Development Evolved help - Get help on the available commands inspect - Inspect a node pagemod - Make page changes pref - Commands to control settings resize - Control Responsive Design Mode restart - Restart Firefox screenshot - Save an image of the page tilt - Visualize the webpage in 3D

derpmeister 14y ago
Thanks! They should disable the flyout completion for now, though. It causes the input box to lose focus, can't type a command with that.

gioele 14y ago

For all the lovers of the "prefixes are not useful, just do without them": > Also the <angle> changed: before, 0deg pointed to the right; now it points, consistently with other angles in the CSS spec, to the top.

tomjen3 14y ago
Which is consistent with how all the other browser does it. And I don't doubt that the prefix debacle is the reason they are getting rid of them now.
- lillycat 14y ago
  No, Opera and Microsoft are implementing the new syntax too (IE 10 unprefixed and Presto 2.12, which is under development, too). Hopefully WebKit will follow soon (if somebody has the bug#, I'm interested)

MatthewPhillips 14y ago

> IndexedDB has reached Candidate Recommendation status and has been unprefixed too. This is amazing. Folks, this is far more important than CSS. Firefox has the most complete implementation of IndexedDB. More than anything else, it is what will enable us to write completely client-side applications.

jmillikin 14y ago
> More than anything else, it is what will enable us to > write completely client-side applications. It seems to me that developers have been writing completely client-side applications for forty years.

Kilimanjaro 14y ago

My blood boils every time I see an odd change in a perfectly fine way of doing things. Compare this: linear-gradient(top,#fff,#000) to this linear-gradient(to bottom,#fff,#000) Why?

lillycat 14y ago
The CSS WG wanted that both the <angle> and the keywords to be consistent: both are indicating a direction now. The 'to' was added in order to let the old and new syntax coexist during the transition time.

PaulHoule 14y ago

ugh... i'd like to see firefox slow down with the features and focus on stability. firefox seems to be in the same boat as microsoft office, eclipse, gnome, and almost all GUI software. each new version adds meaningless features while bugs proliferate unchecked. (Given that this problem affects GUI apps of all kinds, perhaps it can't be solved?) the latest thing that drives me up the wall about Firefox is that it's continually alerting me that my "plug ins are out of date" but as of the last few months the "plug in update" procedures are all broken -- I'm scared to update Java because the last time I did that I broke all my Java apps, and it seems like updates to Adobe products on windows don't work at all today.

sp332 14y ago
"Each version adds meaningless features" This is because the new rapid-release system lets them publish each feature as soon as it is ready. Since big features generally take longer, it's not surprising that each little release has fewer big features.

funksta 14y ago

I can't tell from the post, but is the <angle> argument for linear gradients still optional? Ie. is the following still valid? linear-gradient(#fff, #eee)

Skalman 14y ago
Yes, that works in my Firefox 16.
- funksta 14y ago
  Great, thanks! I find I use top-to-bottom gradients about 90% of the time, so I'm glad the succinct form is still valid.

Killswitch 14y ago

Bad timing on the naming... Aurora?

andrewstewart 14y ago
Firefox Aurora has existed for the last few years. It's their preview release of stuff, equivalent to Chrome Canary.
- Killswitch 14y ago
  Yes, but in light of the current events, you'd think it'd be changed.
  - specto 14y ago
    Why, this is a browser, not some evil plot? They could dedicate it if they wanted to.
    - Killswitch 14y ago
      No, but at the same time, it's just respectful to not keep the codename of a project that is related to such a tragic event.
      - yen223 14y ago
        My heart goes out to the victims and their families of the Aurora incident. However, "Aurora" as a name is simply too common to be replaced.