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Most people I talked with don't grasp how big of an event this is. I consider is almost as similar to as what early version of linux did to OS ecosystem.

belter 2y ago
That is probably because they did not try the model yet. I tried and was stunned. It's not better yet in all areas, but where is better, is so much better than Claude or anything from OpenAI.
- attentionmech 2y ago
  Plus, the speed at which it replies is amazing too. Claude/Chatgpt now seem like inefficient inference engines compared to it.
  - IanCal 2y ago
    I've been trying through openrouter today and it seems quite slow, but this may just be a scaling thing. I tried the chat when it first came out and that was extremely fast.
    - attentionmech 2y ago
      Yea, they might be scaling is harder or may be more tricks up their sleeves when it comes to serving the model.
- TuxSH 2y ago
  Agreed. It's worse than competitors at code completion/fill the blanks/"coding_completion" (it's introduced bugs in functions it didn't need to modify), and language, but is stellar elsewhere: - excellent and very detailled answer for highly technical info searches, like "Is there a C++ proposal to make std::format constexpr?" - excellent at logic where it gets the answer correct on the first try: "Alice has 2 sisters and 1 brother. How many sisters does Alice's brother have?" - excellent in reverse-engineering (prompt looked like: "here's a bunch of Arm ASM with reg names, the reg correspond to this particular datasheet, explain"
robwwilliams 2y ago
Agreed: Worked on a tough problem in philosophy last night with DeepSeek on which I have previously worked with Claude. DeepSeek was at least as good and I found the output format better. I also did not need to provide a “pre-prompt” as I do with Claude. And free use and FOSS. Yep, game changer that opens the floodgates.
resters 2y ago
Precisely. This lets any of us have something that until the other day would have cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It's as if Linus had published linux 2.0, gcc, binutils, libc, etc. all on the same day.
- attentionmech 2y ago
  people are doing all sort of experiments and reproducing the "emergence"(sorry it's not the right word) of backtracking; it's all so fun to watch.
dutchbookmaker 2y ago
I never tried the $200 a month subscription but it just solved a problem for me that neither o1 or claude was able to solve and did it for free. I like everything about it better. All I can think is "Wait, this is completely insane!"
- Shocka1 2y ago
  Something off about this comment and the account it belongs to being 7 days old. Please post the problem/prompt you used so it can be cross checked.
  - ExtraEmpathy 2y ago
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belter 2y ago

That is probably because they did not try the model yet. I tried and was stunned. It's not better yet in all areas, but where is better, is so much better than Claude or anything from OpenAI.

attentionmech 2y ago
Plus, the speed at which it replies is amazing too. Claude/Chatgpt now seem like inefficient inference engines compared to it.
- IanCal 2y ago
  I've been trying through openrouter today and it seems quite slow, but this may just be a scaling thing. I tried the chat when it first came out and that was extremely fast.
  - attentionmech 2y ago
    Yea, they might be scaling is harder or may be more tricks up their sleeves when it comes to serving the model.
TuxSH 2y ago
Agreed. It's worse than competitors at code completion/fill the blanks/"coding_completion" (it's introduced bugs in functions it didn't need to modify), and language, but is stellar elsewhere: - excellent and very detailled answer for highly technical info searches, like "Is there a C++ proposal to make std::format constexpr?" - excellent at logic where it gets the answer correct on the first try: "Alice has 2 sisters and 1 brother. How many sisters does Alice's brother have?" - excellent in reverse-engineering (prompt looked like: "here's a bunch of Arm ASM with reg names, the reg correspond to this particular datasheet, explain"

robwwilliams 2y ago

Agreed: Worked on a tough problem in philosophy last night with DeepSeek on which I have previously worked with Claude. DeepSeek was at least as good and I found the output format better. I also did not need to provide a “pre-prompt” as I do with Claude. And free use and FOSS. Yep, game changer that opens the floodgates.

resters 2y ago

Precisely. This lets any of us have something that until the other day would have cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It's as if Linus had published linux 2.0, gcc, binutils, libc, etc. all on the same day.

attentionmech 2y ago
people are doing all sort of experiments and reproducing the "emergence"(sorry it's not the right word) of backtracking; it's all so fun to watch.

dutchbookmaker 2y ago

I never tried the $200 a month subscription but it just solved a problem for me that neither o1 or claude was able to solve and did it for free. I like everything about it better. All I can think is "Wait, this is completely insane!"

Shocka1 2y ago
Something off about this comment and the account it belongs to being 7 days old. Please post the problem/prompt you used so it can be cross checked.
- ExtraEmpathy 2y ago
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