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React has become the 'Linux kernel' of modern software development

12 points by yilugurlu 2y ago

andrewfromx 2y ago
wow. this is very true and I never thought it that way before. I'm an old school ruby on rails web app dev and I never liked the one main div and then DOM manipulation on the same page for every click. Some react devs literally don't even know that HTML can be rendered server side.
- hermanradtke 2y ago
  > Some react devs literally don't even know that HTML can be rendered server side. Sadly, many do. Only later do they realize it is orders of magnitude slower than rendering a template and more cpu intensive. Combine that with the fact that node.js prefers to have an IO heavy workload, but instead we get a cpu heavy one. React is fine, but SSR has a long way to go before it is “good”.
  - philipwhiuk 2y ago
    "Server-side-rendering" confused me for ages because I figured it must be some new fancy tech instead of 'what PHP has done from the beginning'. SSR isn't actually rendering anything of course.
    - tiagod 2y ago
      In the context of React it makes sense, as traditionally it's a client-side rendering thing. Until recently, a redundant render would run in the client once the js is loaded anyway, but I believe it's possible to skip that now.
jsheard 2y ago
The CEO of webshit believes modern software development is synonymous with webshit. Quelle surprise.
ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
This may be the worst analogy that I've ever heard in my life. Does this guy run a web hosting company or something? The Linux kernel runs operating systems and actual hardware. React is used to display some check boxes and charts on the screen. Like it is not even close. Goes to show how little web devs in general understand software that they make tweets like these.
- deleted 2y ago
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- ramon156 2y ago
  My bar for web dev's on Twitter is very low for this reason. I'd almost argue this is a ragebait post and shouldn't be on HN, but I don't know if I'm the only one
hmmokidk 2y ago
If you have any brain cells left please avoid the link as they will want to seppuku
bigfatkitten 2y ago
It's amazing how far you can come in the software industry now without possessing even a general understanding of how computers work.
- sgarland 2y ago
  What’s worse is some of them become “infra engineers.” Needing to explain to someone in that field why the underlying hardware for the K8s node hosting an extremely memory-bandwidth-intensive app does matter, actually, is painful. It’s about on par with needing to explain B+trees to devs, and realizing they still aren’t making the connection to their queries being slow.
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  Wait until all those „know it all learned on chatgpt cannot google” come to the job market.
musicale 2y ago
No, the Linux kernel is the Linux kernel of software development.
GuestFAUniverse 2y ago
X fka. Twitter: the garbage collector for minds.

12 points by yilugurlu 2y ago

wow. this is very true and I never thought it that way before. I'm an old school ruby on rails web app dev and I never liked the one main div and then DOM manipulation on the same page for every click. Some react devs literally don't even know that HTML can be rendered server side.

hermanradtke 2y ago
> Some react devs literally don't even know that HTML can be rendered server side. Sadly, many do. Only later do they realize it is orders of magnitude slower than rendering a template and more cpu intensive. Combine that with the fact that node.js prefers to have an IO heavy workload, but instead we get a cpu heavy one. React is fine, but SSR has a long way to go before it is “good”.
- philipwhiuk 2y ago
  "Server-side-rendering" confused me for ages because I figured it must be some new fancy tech instead of 'what PHP has done from the beginning'. SSR isn't actually rendering anything of course.
  - tiagod 2y ago
    In the context of React it makes sense, as traditionally it's a client-side rendering thing. Until recently, a redundant render would run in the client once the js is loaded anyway, but I believe it's possible to skip that now.

jsheard 2y ago

The CEO of webshit believes modern software development is synonymous with webshit. Quelle surprise.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

This may be the worst analogy that I've ever heard in my life. Does this guy run a web hosting company or something? The Linux kernel runs operating systems and actual hardware. React is used to display some check boxes and charts on the screen. Like it is not even close. Goes to show how little web devs in general understand software that they make tweets like these.

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ramon156 2y ago
My bar for web dev's on Twitter is very low for this reason. I'd almost argue this is a ragebait post and shouldn't be on HN, but I don't know if I'm the only one

hmmokidk 2y ago

If you have any brain cells left please avoid the link as they will want to seppuku

bigfatkitten 2y ago

It's amazing how far you can come in the software industry now without possessing even a general understanding of how computers work.

sgarland 2y ago
What’s worse is some of them become “infra engineers.” Needing to explain to someone in that field why the underlying hardware for the K8s node hosting an extremely memory-bandwidth-intensive app does matter, actually, is painful. It’s about on par with needing to explain B+trees to devs, and realizing they still aren’t making the connection to their queries being slow.
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
Wait until all those „know it all learned on chatgpt cannot google” come to the job market.

musicale 2y ago

No, the Linux kernel is the Linux kernel of software development.

GuestFAUniverse 2y ago

X fka. Twitter: the garbage collector for minds.