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Remember, if it's free, you're the product. How common is this in privacy policies? > For security and privacy reasons, we request that you abstain from disclo

Remember, if it's free, you're the product. How common is this in privacy policies? > For security and privacy reasons, we request that you abstain from disclosing personal information, including passwords, credit card numbers, or other confidential data. Our commitment to safeguarding your privacy is unwavering, but the security of personal information also relies on safe user practices.

aaomidi 2y ago
If not explicit, this is practically applicable to every ai chat bot out there with limited exceptions.
- deleted 2y ago
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poisonborz 2y ago
However true this is _here_, I really dislike this sentence, as it spills capitalist sentiment and distrust. How much are you the product when using Firefox (even if Mozilla gets ad revenue). How much are you the product with an OSS or community product, or a free tier for a reputable cloud offering?
- idle_zealot 2y ago
  Exactly. The phrase is wrong in every sense. You're pointing out the common case where something is free and offered in good faith (a terrifying and confusing concept for the Free Market faithful). There is also the exceedingly common case of both paying for something and being screwed by whoever sold it to you. Eg buying a Windows license and getting ads in the start menu. The real lesson is: look at incentives/motivations. Are you transacting with a group that has power to unilaterally determine terms and reason to weigh them in their favor? They will.
  - xeonmc 2y ago
    In other words: “If it sounds too good to be true, it is.”
whiplash451 2y ago
> Remember, if it's free, you're the product That was until the 2020s. Now you pay and you are the product.
- luckman212 2y ago
  Wait till 2026: You pay, and your'e the product, AND the product is broken, AND the devs and customer service have been replaced by an AI chatbot that is very polite but only gives incorrect answers. The future is bright.
KineticLensman 2y ago
Actually you often aren't the product, you are instead the raw material from which Meta/Google/etc creates their saleable products: e.g. profiles of recipients for targeted ads.

aaomidi 2y ago

If not explicit, this is practically applicable to every ai chat bot out there with limited exceptions.

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poisonborz 2y ago

However true this is _here_, I really dislike this sentence, as it spills capitalist sentiment and distrust. How much are you the product when using Firefox (even if Mozilla gets ad revenue). How much are you the product with an OSS or community product, or a free tier for a reputable cloud offering?

idle_zealot 2y ago
Exactly. The phrase is wrong in every sense. You're pointing out the common case where something is free and offered in good faith (a terrifying and confusing concept for the Free Market faithful). There is also the exceedingly common case of both paying for something and being screwed by whoever sold it to you. Eg buying a Windows license and getting ads in the start menu. The real lesson is: look at incentives/motivations. Are you transacting with a group that has power to unilaterally determine terms and reason to weigh them in their favor? They will.
- xeonmc 2y ago
  In other words: “If it sounds too good to be true, it is.”

whiplash451 2y ago

> Remember, if it's free, you're the product That was until the 2020s. Now you pay and you are the product.

luckman212 2y ago
Wait till 2026: You pay, and your'e the product, AND the product is broken, AND the devs and customer service have been replaced by an AI chatbot that is very polite but only gives incorrect answers. The future is bright.

KineticLensman 2y ago

Actually you often aren't the product, you are instead the raw material from which Meta/Google/etc creates their saleable products: e.g. profiles of recipients for targeted ads.