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by outside415 2y ago

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kubb 2y ago
Basically he’ll do anything to get the votes he needs, there’s no morality behind it.
- outside415 2y ago
  thank god he won. someone had to do whatever was necessary.
  - kubb 2y ago
    I wish we had leaders with integrity, but we won’t for the foreseeable future.
    - outside415 2y ago
      I am just happy someone is slowing the H1B and indian out sourcing down. between that and AI california tech was about to die for Americans.
      - kubb 2y ago
        Whether that happens remains to be seen. In the first row on his inauguration was an Indian tech CEO and Elon loves H1Bs.
      - lossolo 2y ago
        Trump yesterday: “I like both sides of the argument, but I also like very competent people coming into our country, even if that involves them training and helping other people that may not have the qualifications they do. I don't want to stop…” "We want competent people coming into our country. And H-1B, I know the programme very well. I use the programme. Maître d', wine experts, even waiters, high-quality waiters, you've got to get the best people. People like Larry, he needs engineers, NASA also needs... engineers like nobody's ever needed them"
- gitaarik 2y ago
  So that's the interesting thing about it; he gets the votes from it, so apparently many people agree with him? Only in public nobody seems to agree with him? How is that possible?
  - kubb 2y ago
    The trick is inside or brains. We’re having trouble dealing with detailed percentage breakdowns and differentiating between groups of people. Instead we think of “the average person” and project that on everyone. You looked at the small libertarian interest group, and based on that projected how everyone is. Now you look at hacker news and you’re projecting how everyone is. This projection is where our reasoning fails.
    - gitaarik 2y ago
      Yeah but to be honest, most mainstream media channels that I see criticize Trump a lot. And the media that praises him is often seen als radical / extreme / whatever right. So, either the old government is in power of the mainstream media, or people are secretly on the right and don't speak out about it. Or maybe a combination of the two.
      - kubb 2y ago
        It’s the selection of media that you see. Try watching Fox. Try listening to Joe Rogan. Try going on a clean YouTube account and watching random videos for a week. It’s there. You made a false dichotomy, but I’m sure you can figure that one on your own. There’s also the other aspect where you align your views to the views of your group. There are places in the US, where being a Republican is absolutely the core of what you are, and you will adopt and genuinely love any candidate from that party.
  - krige 2y ago
    Most of his voters have no idea what his campaign or promises are, and that's intentional, see mexican voters apparently surprised by his anti-mexican stance now.
- philwelch 2y ago
  This is democracy manifest.
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kubb 2y ago

Basically he’ll do anything to get the votes he needs, there’s no morality behind it.

outside415 2y ago
thank god he won. someone had to do whatever was necessary.
- kubb 2y ago
  I wish we had leaders with integrity, but we won’t for the foreseeable future.
  - outside415 2y ago
    I am just happy someone is slowing the H1B and indian out sourcing down. between that and AI california tech was about to die for Americans.
    - kubb 2y ago
      Whether that happens remains to be seen. In the first row on his inauguration was an Indian tech CEO and Elon loves H1Bs.
    - lossolo 2y ago
      Trump yesterday: “I like both sides of the argument, but I also like very competent people coming into our country, even if that involves them training and helping other people that may not have the qualifications they do. I don't want to stop…” "We want competent people coming into our country. And H-1B, I know the programme very well. I use the programme. Maître d', wine experts, even waiters, high-quality waiters, you've got to get the best people. People like Larry, he needs engineers, NASA also needs... engineers like nobody's ever needed them"
gitaarik 2y ago
So that's the interesting thing about it; he gets the votes from it, so apparently many people agree with him? Only in public nobody seems to agree with him? How is that possible?
- kubb 2y ago
  The trick is inside or brains. We’re having trouble dealing with detailed percentage breakdowns and differentiating between groups of people. Instead we think of “the average person” and project that on everyone. You looked at the small libertarian interest group, and based on that projected how everyone is. Now you look at hacker news and you’re projecting how everyone is. This projection is where our reasoning fails.
  - gitaarik 2y ago
    Yeah but to be honest, most mainstream media channels that I see criticize Trump a lot. And the media that praises him is often seen als radical / extreme / whatever right. So, either the old government is in power of the mainstream media, or people are secretly on the right and don't speak out about it. Or maybe a combination of the two.
    - kubb 2y ago
      It’s the selection of media that you see. Try watching Fox. Try listening to Joe Rogan. Try going on a clean YouTube account and watching random videos for a week. It’s there. You made a false dichotomy, but I’m sure you can figure that one on your own. There’s also the other aspect where you align your views to the views of your group. There are places in the US, where being a Republican is absolutely the core of what you are, and you will adopt and genuinely love any candidate from that party.
- krige 2y ago
  Most of his voters have no idea what his campaign or promises are, and that's intentional, see mexican voters apparently surprised by his anti-mexican stance now.
philwelch 2y ago
This is democracy manifest.

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