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> it’s much more realistic to start a business that is going to convince enough people to pay you enough to support yourself. I only have to convince one place

by Mc91 2y ago

> it’s much more realistic to start a business that is going to convince enough people to pay you enough to support yourself. I only have to convince one place - Google Ads. Plus bring in the "eyeballs" with my free app, but I have accomplished that more than once. > Also you have to convince companies to do business with you instead of a well known company. Just one company in my case (actually several, but 90+% of the money comes from Google) > Oh and to be competitive you need to have some type of funding. I have to be competitive enough to make a few thousand a month, and with my programming (and database design, and UX, and SRE etc.) skills, I have achieved that. > And you need to make enough to pay for health care. In the US you do.

scarface_74 2y ago
https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/12/most-subscription-mobile-apps-dont-make-money-new-report-shows/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/12/most-subscription-mobile-a... > the top 5% of apps generate 200 times the revenue of the bottom quartile after their first year, while the median monthly revenue an app generates after 12 months is less than $50 USD. https://medium.com/beyond-agile-leadership/the-difference-between-apps-that-win-and-fail-b4f4bb647b61#:~:text=Web%20App%20Success%20Versus%20Failure,out%20of%2010%2C000%20apps%20failing https://medium.com/beyond-agile-leadership/the-difference-be.... >Success rate: According to Zippia, only 0.5% of mobile apps are successful, with 9,999 out of 10,000 apps failing. Fyresite estimates that 99.5% of consumer apps and 87% of business apps fail. Now imagine what would happen if more people took that advice? For context, a new grad working in a major city in the US not on the west coast - even an ordinary CRUD enterprise framework developer - can make $70k- $80K a year. What exactly is a “few thousand a month”? That’s a good side hustle. But even that’s not enough to support yourself
- greenie_beans 2y ago
  i just launched a website a month ago to sell sweet potatoes online and i ran a bunch of google ads. now i have a b2b revenue stream selling sweet potatoes to medical diagnostic test manufacturers. please, with the original snark style from your comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42632061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42632061, tell me more about how it is a waste of my time to find businesses to do business with my brand new business and instead just find a stable job?
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    hard to debate these things with people who are born and bred into “slave for someone else” mentality and think like $350k is great salary one should be happy with slaving away at some cubicle in the Bay or at home 12 hours per day… :) America is great at making sure most people think this way…
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      I wake up in the morning, role out of bed, walk over to my home office, shut down my computer after 8 hours and get on with my life. I don’t have to worry about finding customers, I have unlimited paid PTO and I plan to take 30 days this year not including 10 paid holidays. My wife and I travel a lot and we did the digital nomad thing for a year. If the company decides they don’t want to employ me anymore, I find another job like I have done 10 times in my career including last year and the year before. Both times it took three weeks. I don’t live in the Bay Area , I live in a nice condo with access to 5 pools, a private to the condo association fishing lake and two gyms, bars and restaurants all within walking distance in state tax free Florida.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        that sounds fucking amazing!!!!! I think the main “disagreement” we have is that I truly believe there are too many people thinking that FAANG-driven career is fullfilling and something that should be taught to new kids that are coming into our industry. I am now and will spend the rest of my career pleading with them to choose a more fullfilling and rewarding career
        scarface_74 2y ago
        I’m also 50. If I were 22 in 2025 instead of being 22 in 1996, I would definitely do what I needed to do to exchange as much money as possible for my labor instead of toiling away at an enterprise dev job making $70K a year when instead I could be graduating college making $170K to $200k+. I did do my bid in a FAANG working remotely between the ages of 46-49 and I saw first hand the doors it opens and the experience that college grads had that they couldn’t get anywhere else, Hell, it open doors for me. There is no way I could have found jobs as quickly as I did both last year and the year before without it. Also even at 46-49 I learned a lot that has helped me since I left. On another note: after my youngest graduated, my wife and I sold everything we owned and after traveling for a year, we settled down in our vacation home (a unit in a condotel we own). We rent it out when we decide to travel for an extended period of time. The “hotel” part of the condotel takes care of everything. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/condotel.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/condotel.asp

by Mc91 2y ago

scarface_74 2y ago

https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/12/most-subscription-mobile-apps-dont-make-money-new-report-shows/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/12/most-subscription-mobile-a... > the top 5% of apps generate 200 times the revenue of the bottom quartile after their first year, while the median monthly revenue an app generates after 12 months is less than $50 USD. https://medium.com/beyond-agile-leadership/the-difference-between-apps-that-win-and-fail-b4f4bb647b61#:~:text=Web%20App%20Success%20Versus%20Failure,out%20of%2010%2C000%20apps%20failing https://medium.com/beyond-agile-leadership/the-difference-be.... >Success rate: According to Zippia, only 0.5% of mobile apps are successful, with 9,999 out of 10,000 apps failing. Fyresite estimates that 99.5% of consumer apps and 87% of business apps fail. Now imagine what would happen if more people took that advice? For context, a new grad working in a major city in the US not on the west coast - even an ordinary CRUD enterprise framework developer - can make $70k- $80K a year. What exactly is a “few thousand a month”? That’s a good side hustle. But even that’s not enough to support yourself

greenie_beans 2y ago
i just launched a website a month ago to sell sweet potatoes online and i ran a bunch of google ads. now i have a b2b revenue stream selling sweet potatoes to medical diagnostic test manufacturers. please, with the original snark style from your comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42632061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42632061, tell me more about how it is a waste of my time to find businesses to do business with my brand new business and instead just find a stable job?
- bdangubic 2y ago
  hard to debate these things with people who are born and bred into “slave for someone else” mentality and think like $350k is great salary one should be happy with slaving away at some cubicle in the Bay or at home 12 hours per day… :) America is great at making sure most people think this way…
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    I wake up in the morning, role out of bed, walk over to my home office, shut down my computer after 8 hours and get on with my life. I don’t have to worry about finding customers, I have unlimited paid PTO and I plan to take 30 days this year not including 10 paid holidays. My wife and I travel a lot and we did the digital nomad thing for a year. If the company decides they don’t want to employ me anymore, I find another job like I have done 10 times in my career including last year and the year before. Both times it took three weeks. I don’t live in the Bay Area , I live in a nice condo with access to 5 pools, a private to the condo association fishing lake and two gyms, bars and restaurants all within walking distance in state tax free Florida.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      that sounds fucking amazing!!!!! I think the main “disagreement” we have is that I truly believe there are too many people thinking that FAANG-driven career is fullfilling and something that should be taught to new kids that are coming into our industry. I am now and will spend the rest of my career pleading with them to choose a more fullfilling and rewarding career
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        I’m also 50. If I were 22 in 2025 instead of being 22 in 1996, I would definitely do what I needed to do to exchange as much money as possible for my labor instead of toiling away at an enterprise dev job making $70K a year when instead I could be graduating college making $170K to $200k+. I did do my bid in a FAANG working remotely between the ages of 46-49 and I saw first hand the doors it opens and the experience that college grads had that they couldn’t get anywhere else, Hell, it open doors for me. There is no way I could have found jobs as quickly as I did both last year and the year before without it. Also even at 46-49 I learned a lot that has helped me since I left. On another note: after my youngest graduated, my wife and I sold everything we owned and after traveling for a year, we settled down in our vacation home (a unit in a condotel we own). We rent it out when we decide to travel for an extended period of time. The “hotel” part of the condotel takes care of everything. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/condotel.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/condotel.asp