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jibe 2y ago
a basic revision of the scientific literature will show Freudian slip?
- dang 2y ago
  "Revision" means "review" in parts of the English-speaking world, so probably not.
mike_hearn 2y ago
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- pachorizons 2y ago
  If you read all the papers then why is this not sourced?
  - cempaka 2y ago
    Not going to go and try to unearth it right now but everything he is saying about the figures coming out of England & Scotland is absolutely true, I saw it laid out on Twitter with links to the primary sources in real time.
  - plasticchris 2y ago
    The data set seems to be here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde... Not sure what it implies, but there it is.
  - mike_hearn 2y ago
    I did source it, I just didn't provide links this time. Go dig out the old UK or danish reports or discussions of them from the time. No links this time because I've posted on this topic dozens of times in the past over the years and was away from my bookmarks list at the time anyway. It didn't stop people flagging posts. They just pick fights with the sources or start making arguments long since resolved. There are whole websites devoted to explaining various aspects of what happened, look for Prof Norman Fenton's blog for an example if you want to get started.
- cempaka 2y ago
  I think my favorite trick here was categorizing people less than four weeks out from their second dose, or anyone who didn't get a second dose (likely as a result of a nasty reaction to the first shot, itself a good indicator of high susceptibility to COVID spike pathology), or anyone whose vaccine status was "unknown," as "unvaccinated."
  - mike_hearn 2y ago
    Yep. One of many such statistical tricks. And as you can see from this thread, it works a treat...
cempaka 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  Please edit swipes out of your HN posts, as the guidelines request: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Your comment would be fine without that first sentence.
georgeburdell 2y ago
I had to sign a waiver absolving the government and vaccine makers of liability to get the vaccine that was required to keep my job. The vaccine I chose ended up getting pulled from the market due to the risk of blood clots. We now have the benefit of hindsight, but the authoritarian bent many governments gained during Covid should not be forgotten.
dang 2y ago
> This is what happens when NPCs try to become scientific experts based on random podcasts. Attacking others will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. It's also in your interest to edit swipes out of your comments here, quite apart from not getting banned on HN, because they discredit your position in the eye of the fair-minded reader (see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=truth%20discredit%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... for lots of past explanations of that, if you care). If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

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jibe 2y ago

a basic revision of the scientific literature will show Freudian slip?

dang 2y ago
"Revision" means "review" in parts of the English-speaking world, so probably not.

mike_hearn 2y ago

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pachorizons 2y ago
If you read all the papers then why is this not sourced?
- cempaka 2y ago
  Not going to go and try to unearth it right now but everything he is saying about the figures coming out of England & Scotland is absolutely true, I saw it laid out on Twitter with links to the primary sources in real time.
- plasticchris 2y ago
  The data set seems to be here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde... Not sure what it implies, but there it is.
- mike_hearn 2y ago
  I did source it, I just didn't provide links this time. Go dig out the old UK or danish reports or discussions of them from the time. No links this time because I've posted on this topic dozens of times in the past over the years and was away from my bookmarks list at the time anyway. It didn't stop people flagging posts. They just pick fights with the sources or start making arguments long since resolved. There are whole websites devoted to explaining various aspects of what happened, look for Prof Norman Fenton's blog for an example if you want to get started.
cempaka 2y ago
I think my favorite trick here was categorizing people less than four weeks out from their second dose, or anyone who didn't get a second dose (likely as a result of a nasty reaction to the first shot, itself a good indicator of high susceptibility to COVID spike pathology), or anyone whose vaccine status was "unknown," as "unvaccinated."
- mike_hearn 2y ago
  Yep. One of many such statistical tricks. And as you can see from this thread, it works a treat...

cempaka 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
Please edit swipes out of your HN posts, as the guidelines request: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Your comment would be fine without that first sentence.

georgeburdell 2y ago

I had to sign a waiver absolving the government and vaccine makers of liability to get the vaccine that was required to keep my job. The vaccine I chose ended up getting pulled from the market due to the risk of blood clots. We now have the benefit of hindsight, but the authoritarian bent many governments gained during Covid should not be forgotten.

dang 2y ago

> This is what happens when NPCs try to become scientific experts based on random podcasts. Attacking others will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. It's also in your interest to edit swipes out of your comments here, quite apart from not getting banned on HN, because they discredit your position in the eye of the fair-minded reader (see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=truth%20discredit%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... for lots of past explanations of that, if you care). If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.