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Murder was never legal or “allowed”. If you believe that people do not kill because it is illegal, you are on a shaky ground.

bdangubic 2y ago
you should ask yourself a different question - if we legalized murder would this cause uptick in murders or not…? :)
- richrichie 2y ago
  It has more nuance. The supposition that there are significant number of murderers walking among us that would not murder because it is illegal has no basis. Crime statistics imply that most murders are results of either passion or pre-meditated/ well planned. These have nothing to do with legality of it. We have to have the law for an entirely different reason.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    Crime statistics are based on what is currently considered a “crime.” you are defeating your own argument… :) there is no nuance - if you made murder legal there would be A TON of murders, it is that simple (I personally might pop a cap in couple of people that have wronged people I love)
    - richrichie 2y ago
      > if you made murder legal there would be A TON of murders, This is an assumption. > it is that simple (I personally might pop a cap in couple of people that have wronged people I love) I dont think so. I will bet good money that you don not have what it takes to kill. Most people do not.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        This is an assumption. of course it is an assumption (lets keep it that way :) ) The supposition that there are significant number of murderers walking among us that would not murder because it is illegal has no basis. btw this is an assumption too :) I will bet good money that you don not have what it takes to kill. Most people do not. you are forgetting that humans by their very nature are animals... and also predators. you are thinking about a little more civilized humans, your Mom and Pop in Boise, Idaho. in large parts of this Earth human life is expendable - civilized places have laws in place to ensure this be the case. I am certainly not saying that if you legalize murder we'd all start shooting each other but there is a much better change that happens than that "most people won't have what it takes..."
bildung 2y ago
Of course it was, the trick simply was to declare some groups to not be human.

bdangubic 2y ago

you should ask yourself a different question - if we legalized murder would this cause uptick in murders or not…? :)

richrichie 2y ago
It has more nuance. The supposition that there are significant number of murderers walking among us that would not murder because it is illegal has no basis. Crime statistics imply that most murders are results of either passion or pre-meditated/ well planned. These have nothing to do with legality of it. We have to have the law for an entirely different reason.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  Crime statistics are based on what is currently considered a “crime.” you are defeating your own argument… :) there is no nuance - if you made murder legal there would be A TON of murders, it is that simple (I personally might pop a cap in couple of people that have wronged people I love)
  - richrichie 2y ago
    > if you made murder legal there would be A TON of murders, This is an assumption. > it is that simple (I personally might pop a cap in couple of people that have wronged people I love) I dont think so. I will bet good money that you don not have what it takes to kill. Most people do not.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      This is an assumption. of course it is an assumption (lets keep it that way :) ) The supposition that there are significant number of murderers walking among us that would not murder because it is illegal has no basis. btw this is an assumption too :) I will bet good money that you don not have what it takes to kill. Most people do not. you are forgetting that humans by their very nature are animals... and also predators. you are thinking about a little more civilized humans, your Mom and Pop in Boise, Idaho. in large parts of this Earth human life is expendable - civilized places have laws in place to ensure this be the case. I am certainly not saying that if you legalize murder we'd all start shooting each other but there is a much better change that happens than that "most people won't have what it takes..."

bildung 2y ago

Of course it was, the trick simply was to declare some groups to not be human.