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They presented at HotChips 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_R0S6piLA0&t=2114s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_R0S6piLA0&t=2114s There, one of the thi

They presented at HotChips 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_R0S6piLA0&t=2114s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_R0S6piLA0&t=2114s There, one of the things they mentioned was that they were hoping that RISC-V in general, and their cores in particular, becomes a platform for academic research. That way, cutting-edge things are shared in the open and the industry benefits globally. The optimistic view of this is that it's hoping for a better future for all. The cynical view is that open source is much harder to sanction/export control. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

lenerdenator 2y ago
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- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  get off it. americans are not the only people in the world that can invent and innovate.
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    But it’s true that most inventions and innovations in the last 100 years have come from Americans (with work from immigrants, descendants of immigrants, etc). China’s progress economically and technologically has almost entirely been copying those innovations and competing on price due to poor labor and environmental laws and conditions. In many cases it literally involved espionage, and in others it involved unethical stealing from partners or even customers (for example companies that used a manufacturer there).
    - phkahler 2y ago
      >> China’s progress economically and technologically has almost entirely been copying those innovations and competing on price due to poor labor and environmental laws and conditions. That may have been true for a while when they were catching up. They are now leading R&D in a number of areas. They do have more issues (fraud, piling on co-authors) in published research, but there is a lot of legit stuff going on too. There are also cases where China has always been ahead of the US - flat panel displays have never really been manufactured in the U.S. for example. A lot of their innovations are also seen as "just cost reduction" on our end, but that still counts and is part of why they're still competitive even as their labor costs go up.
    - mattlondon 2y ago
      > But it’s true that most inventions and innovations in the last 100 years have come from Americans Citation needed. That seems implausible.
      - littlestymaar 2y ago
        As world's first economic power, the US has indeed be the home of plenty of inventions and innovations, but of course it's not “most” of them.
        nobunaga 2y ago
        Its idiotic to focus on the last 100 years. Those american innovations you mention came on the shoulders of innovations from the arabs, romans, ottomans and many other cultures/societies before them. Where is the praise for them? Why are we so focused on who is the best. We seriously need a population reset. People can be so idiotic and self absorbed.
        bobim 2y ago
        A large chunk of our western innovations are rooted in "1936" german research. US space program? From Mr Von Braun who was allowed on US land through operation paperclip. Axial jet engine?From Junkers Motoren engine propelling the Me 262. Modern submarines? From u-boats type XXI. Assault rifle? MP43. Highways, synthetic fuel, a lot of modern chemistry... So no, US did not come with most of the last 100s years innovations.
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        nineteen999 2y ago
        Refrigeration was invented by an Australian of Scottish descent. As an Australian I like to think of this every time I open a cold beer.
        panick21_ 2y ago
        Spotted the Wehraboo in the wild.
  - wyager 2y ago
    And yet 95% of novel IP...
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      Not true. Plus, this only works if you value IP, which not everyone does.
    - jazzyjackson 2y ago
      A side effect of extreme litigiousness
  - tomcam 2y ago
    Did GP say that americans are not the only people in the world that can invent and innovate?
- digitalsurgeonz 2y ago
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lenerdenator 2y ago

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jazzyjackson 2y ago
get off it. americans are not the only people in the world that can invent and innovate.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  But it’s true that most inventions and innovations in the last 100 years have come from Americans (with work from immigrants, descendants of immigrants, etc). China’s progress economically and technologically has almost entirely been copying those innovations and competing on price due to poor labor and environmental laws and conditions. In many cases it literally involved espionage, and in others it involved unethical stealing from partners or even customers (for example companies that used a manufacturer there).
  - phkahler 2y ago
    >> China’s progress economically and technologically has almost entirely been copying those innovations and competing on price due to poor labor and environmental laws and conditions. That may have been true for a while when they were catching up. They are now leading R&D in a number of areas. They do have more issues (fraud, piling on co-authors) in published research, but there is a lot of legit stuff going on too. There are also cases where China has always been ahead of the US - flat panel displays have never really been manufactured in the U.S. for example. A lot of their innovations are also seen as "just cost reduction" on our end, but that still counts and is part of why they're still competitive even as their labor costs go up.
  - mattlondon 2y ago
    > But it’s true that most inventions and innovations in the last 100 years have come from Americans Citation needed. That seems implausible.
    - littlestymaar 2y ago
      As world's first economic power, the US has indeed be the home of plenty of inventions and innovations, but of course it's not “most” of them.
      - nobunaga 2y ago
        Its idiotic to focus on the last 100 years. Those american innovations you mention came on the shoulders of innovations from the arabs, romans, ottomans and many other cultures/societies before them. Where is the praise for them? Why are we so focused on who is the best. We seriously need a population reset. People can be so idiotic and self absorbed.
      - bobim 2y ago
        A large chunk of our western innovations are rooted in "1936" german research. US space program? From Mr Von Braun who was allowed on US land through operation paperclip. Axial jet engine?From Junkers Motoren engine propelling the Me 262. Modern submarines? From u-boats type XXI. Assault rifle? MP43. Highways, synthetic fuel, a lot of modern chemistry... So no, US did not come with most of the last 100s years innovations.
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        nineteen999 2y ago
        Refrigeration was invented by an Australian of Scottish descent. As an Australian I like to think of this every time I open a cold beer.
        panick21_ 2y ago
        Spotted the Wehraboo in the wild.
- wyager 2y ago
  And yet 95% of novel IP...
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    Not true. Plus, this only works if you value IP, which not everyone does.
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago
    A side effect of extreme litigiousness
- tomcam 2y ago
  Did GP say that americans are not the only people in the world that can invent and innovate?
digitalsurgeonz 2y ago
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