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USA Today's reporting is wrong. There are not 971 cases of school shootings. There are about that many "school incidents". Some of those incidents, like the one

USA Today's reporting is wrong. There are not 971 cases of school shootings. There are about that many "school incidents". Some of those incidents, like the one listed below, are where police responded to a report of someone with a gun and never found the person or gun. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3096236 https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3096236 Additionally, some of the 112 that did have a victim didn't even happen on campus. See this linked incident. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3091356 https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3091356

ceejayoz 2y ago
> Additionally, some of the 112 that did have a victim didn't even happen on campus. See this linked incident. Did you look at your link? > Student shot in leg during dispute in parking lot as school was dismissing That's a school shooting. The parking lot is absolutely part of the campus.
- simoncion 2y ago
  > That's a school shooting. Ah. I now understand why school shooting numbers that people are quoting are so very high as of late. Shit like Columbine is a school shooting. Shit like that is a shooting that happened to happen at school. If the assailant had used a knife, would you be calling it a "school stabbing"? If you would, then I disagree with that characterization, too. For lots of folks, the term "school shooting" is strongly associated with the notion that a massacre happened... and not at all with the notion that some folks got into a heated argument, and one of them decided to attack the other with a weapon.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    Not every school shooting is a mass shooting, no.
    - simoncion 2y ago
      Based on this: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42552320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42552320> many things classified as "school shooting" are not what any reasonable person would think of when they hear the term. A kid shooting HIMSELF in the leg? Yes, it meets an extremely literal definition, but it would be incredibly stupid to -say- lock down a campus because of that.
- mattw2121 2y ago
  Yes I have. An altercation between two people in a parking lot is different than a school shooting. Have you looked at the other items listed where there are victims? Multiple times I see that it was an altercation in a dorm room of a college. Sorry, I would consider that an altercation in a residence, not a school shooting. Here's another one that a kid shot himself in the leg and it's counted as a school shooting. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3092594 https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3092594 These stats from GVA are inflated with respect to school shootings.

ceejayoz 2y ago

> Additionally, some of the 112 that did have a victim didn't even happen on campus. See this linked incident. Did you look at your link? > Student shot in leg during dispute in parking lot as school was dismissing That's a school shooting. The parking lot is absolutely part of the campus.

simoncion 2y ago
> That's a school shooting. Ah. I now understand why school shooting numbers that people are quoting are so very high as of late. Shit like Columbine is a school shooting. Shit like that is a shooting that happened to happen at school. If the assailant had used a knife, would you be calling it a "school stabbing"? If you would, then I disagree with that characterization, too. For lots of folks, the term "school shooting" is strongly associated with the notion that a massacre happened... and not at all with the notion that some folks got into a heated argument, and one of them decided to attack the other with a weapon.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Not every school shooting is a mass shooting, no.
  - simoncion 2y ago
    Based on this: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42552320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42552320> many things classified as "school shooting" are not what any reasonable person would think of when they hear the term. A kid shooting HIMSELF in the leg? Yes, it meets an extremely literal definition, but it would be incredibly stupid to -say- lock down a campus because of that.
mattw2121 2y ago
Yes I have. An altercation between two people in a parking lot is different than a school shooting. Have you looked at the other items listed where there are victims? Multiple times I see that it was an altercation in a dorm room of a college. Sorry, I would consider that an altercation in a residence, not a school shooting. Here's another one that a kid shot himself in the leg and it's counted as a school shooting. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3092594 https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/3092594 These stats from GVA are inflated with respect to school shootings.