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I flagged you. Sorry, this just looks like flamebait/trolling to me. If you want to believe I'm a Liberal Elite silencing your "discourse" I guess I can't convi

by msg 14y ago

I flagged you. Sorry, this just looks like flamebait/trolling to me. If you want to believe I'm a Liberal Elite silencing your "discourse" I guess I can't convince you otherwise.

bdcravens 14y ago
Google does overwhelmingly support one party over another, and was the 5th largest donor to Obama's 2008 campaign: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-46840313/google-political-donations-where-company-execs-put-their-cash/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-46840313/google-polit... Probably had nothing to do with the takedown, as YouTube says they take down everything with a DMCA claim attached. Still, you can't dispute the fact that the parties involved aren't objective: the money says otherwise.
bdcravens 14y ago
Why trolling? If we criticize censorship of Kim Dotcom or Julian Assange, and express anger, is that trolling? If Westboro Baptist or Glenn Beck abused the DMCA to silence their critics, we'd rightly be waving pitchforks. No different to criticize what appears to be an attack on free speech using the DMCA. Regardless of your political stance, if there appears to be an agenda to silence someone on the one side, then it's fair to label those on the other side as crazy and evil.
- natrius 14y ago
  Hacker News is not a place to discuss or engage in partisan politics. Criticizing attacks on free speech is great. Blaming people of a certain political persuasion for problems and (especially) furthering those arguments with juvenile sarcasm have no place here.
jhspaybar 14y ago
It wasn't either, just a sarcastic way to point out that these types of takedowns hit Republicans regularly while Democrats skate by. It's also quite clear a lot of this exact same clip can be found on YouTube alone, just without Romney's attacks voiced over. It doesn't take a genius to see that SOMEONE who is liberal(or lots of someone's) are clearly going out of their way to target Republicans with DMCA take downs.
- accountswu 14y ago
  There isn't much "liberal" about Obama restricting civil liberties, continuing the use of torture, continuing the use of spying against American citizens without warrants, stepping up the assassination of leaders abroad (without trying them in a court) and killing civilians around the world. Perhaps the only difference between Democrats and Republicans is the number of people killed; Bush had the chance to kill more Iraqis, Clinton fired missiles on a Sudan factory in Aspirin, Obama prefers to use drones to kill Afghans, Yemenis, Somalis and Pakistanis. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/obama-has-prosecuted-more-whistleblowers-than-all-other-presidents-combined.html http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/obama-has-prosecuted-... If you just happen to be an 18 year old male kid in an area and Obama wants to bombya, you're not a dead civilian, you're a dead militant. Previously they would assume that you're a militant unless proven otherwise. Now 18 year old male is a proven militant by definition. http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition-of-civilian-in-secret-drone-wars-woods.html http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition...

by msg 14y ago

I flagged you. Sorry, this just looks like flamebait/trolling to me. If you want to believe I'm a Liberal Elite silencing your "discourse" I guess I can't convince you otherwise.

bdcravens 14y ago

Google does overwhelmingly support one party over another, and was the 5th largest donor to Obama's 2008 campaign: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-46840313/google-political-donations-where-company-execs-put-their-cash/ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-46840313/google-polit... Probably had nothing to do with the takedown, as YouTube says they take down everything with a DMCA claim attached. Still, you can't dispute the fact that the parties involved aren't objective: the money says otherwise.

bdcravens 14y ago

Why trolling? If we criticize censorship of Kim Dotcom or Julian Assange, and express anger, is that trolling? If Westboro Baptist or Glenn Beck abused the DMCA to silence their critics, we'd rightly be waving pitchforks. No different to criticize what appears to be an attack on free speech using the DMCA. Regardless of your political stance, if there appears to be an agenda to silence someone on the one side, then it's fair to label those on the other side as crazy and evil.

natrius 14y ago
Hacker News is not a place to discuss or engage in partisan politics. Criticizing attacks on free speech is great. Blaming people of a certain political persuasion for problems and (especially) furthering those arguments with juvenile sarcasm have no place here.

jhspaybar 14y ago

It wasn't either, just a sarcastic way to point out that these types of takedowns hit Republicans regularly while Democrats skate by. It's also quite clear a lot of this exact same clip can be found on YouTube alone, just without Romney's attacks voiced over. It doesn't take a genius to see that SOMEONE who is liberal(or lots of someone's) are clearly going out of their way to target Republicans with DMCA take downs.

accountswu 14y ago
There isn't much "liberal" about Obama restricting civil liberties, continuing the use of torture, continuing the use of spying against American citizens without warrants, stepping up the assassination of leaders abroad (without trying them in a court) and killing civilians around the world. Perhaps the only difference between Democrats and Republicans is the number of people killed; Bush had the chance to kill more Iraqis, Clinton fired missiles on a Sudan factory in Aspirin, Obama prefers to use drones to kill Afghans, Yemenis, Somalis and Pakistanis. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/obama-has-prosecuted-more-whistleblowers-than-all-other-presidents-combined.html http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/obama-has-prosecuted-... If you just happen to be an 18 year old male kid in an area and Obama wants to bombya, you're not a dead civilian, you're a dead militant. Previously they would assume that you're a militant unless proven otherwise. Now 18 year old male is a proven militant by definition. http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition-of-civilian-in-secret-drone-wars-woods.html http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition...