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I am anti-globalization, and pro-America first.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 2y ago
Success of the US is largely a product of globalization and geography. The US would be nowhere close to where it is now without largely unrestricted capitalism and a global consumer base. It has always been like that, from being a colony, through making money on products of slavery, being industrial base for lots of the world in 20th century and now being the digital world capital.
bdangubic 2y ago
that is an oxymoron - america has been the main driver of globalization without a distant second. the “america first” is political garbage used to rile up rural america, it only exists in context “we’ll let american companies do whatever is necessary so that we keep being “global leader” …)
- vbi8iBEX 2y ago
  American leaders have been the drivers of lots of terrible things that I disagree with. I'm still anti globalization and pro-America first which in the context of this thread translates to hiring American workers over foreigners when there is clearly no shortage of American workers.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    brace yourself for the next two/four years as the incoming administration is on a mission to kill american workforce chasing every last dollar. I feel you but the pro-America means 180-different to you than what is about to hit us hard
    - w4ffl35 2y ago
      Perhaps. Most certainly the unelected musk / ramaswamy coalition is all about that. It's really up in the air how this will go. With the recent meltdown on X, I await Trump's words and actions. His base is unhappy, as is his inner circle. Musk is flailing, telling people to "fuck yourself in the face" etc. Does trump's base matter now that he's in his 2nd term, or will he tether himself to musk for the duration of his time in office? It will be an interesting 4 years.
      - nirav72 2y ago
        > I await Trump's words well..right now, it seems that Trump is siding with Elon on this. This hit the news today: https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk-91ab17e141cc9764fb18b8bc862c84dc https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk... Also remember - Trump doesn't need the votes anymore from his base. He could pivot on all of his promises or some of these things or make just enough of a visible attempt to give a perception of things are being changed. It wouldn't make a difference. He's said a lot of things and made a lot of promises since being elected the first time. Very few things actually trickled down to the average person. At least nothing that was a lasting change couldn't be undone by the next administration due to bad policy. I say this as someone who voted for him. (I knew what who I was voting for though and had very little expectations of change.)
        w4ffl35 2y ago
        Yes like I said: > Does trump's base matter now that he's in his 2nd term? I doubt it.
        bdangubic 2y ago
        if he is set of pilaging what he can for the next two years - this is 100% right. he’ll get buttfucked in 2026 midterms like in 2018… but I think he does want at least 4 years of full power and will want the votes for one more election cycle

Success of the US is largely a product of globalization and geography. The US would be nowhere close to where it is now without largely unrestricted capitalism and a global consumer base. It has always been like that, from being a colony, through making money on products of slavery, being industrial base for lots of the world in 20th century and now being the digital world capital.

bdangubic 2y ago

that is an oxymoron - america has been the main driver of globalization without a distant second. the “america first” is political garbage used to rile up rural america, it only exists in context “we’ll let american companies do whatever is necessary so that we keep being “global leader” …)

vbi8iBEX 2y ago
American leaders have been the drivers of lots of terrible things that I disagree with. I'm still anti globalization and pro-America first which in the context of this thread translates to hiring American workers over foreigners when there is clearly no shortage of American workers.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  brace yourself for the next two/four years as the incoming administration is on a mission to kill american workforce chasing every last dollar. I feel you but the pro-America means 180-different to you than what is about to hit us hard
  - w4ffl35 2y ago
    Perhaps. Most certainly the unelected musk / ramaswamy coalition is all about that. It's really up in the air how this will go. With the recent meltdown on X, I await Trump's words and actions. His base is unhappy, as is his inner circle. Musk is flailing, telling people to "fuck yourself in the face" etc. Does trump's base matter now that he's in his 2nd term, or will he tether himself to musk for the duration of his time in office? It will be an interesting 4 years.
    - nirav72 2y ago
      > I await Trump's words well..right now, it seems that Trump is siding with Elon on this. This hit the news today: https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk-91ab17e141cc9764fb18b8bc862c84dc https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk... Also remember - Trump doesn't need the votes anymore from his base. He could pivot on all of his promises or some of these things or make just enough of a visible attempt to give a perception of things are being changed. It wouldn't make a difference. He's said a lot of things and made a lot of promises since being elected the first time. Very few things actually trickled down to the average person. At least nothing that was a lasting change couldn't be undone by the next administration due to bad policy. I say this as someone who voted for him. (I knew what who I was voting for though and had very little expectations of change.)
      - w4ffl35 2y ago
        Yes like I said: > Does trump's base matter now that he's in his 2nd term? I doubt it.
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        if he is set of pilaging what he can for the next two years - this is 100% right. he’ll get buttfucked in 2026 midterms like in 2018… but I think he does want at least 4 years of full power and will want the votes for one more election cycle