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People of Ukraine should not be forced to fight by their government. Simple

by medo-bear 2y ago

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The_Colonel 2y ago
I assume you protested the 2022 Russian mobilization as well?
- medo-bear 2y ago
  completely opposed to it, yes. im an ex refugee. i hate war and especially conscription. and super especially a pointless war that destroys the whole country and sets it back for generations to come. ive also seen what western interefernce looks like when the west wants there to be a war. for example compare this to boris johnson torpedoing the peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine in 2022 On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. The plan had assigned each of the 109 municipalities to be divided amongst the three ethnic sides. The allocation of the municipalities was mostly based off the results of the 1991 population census that was completed a year before the signing of the agreement. The agreement had stipulated that the Bosniak and Serb cantons would each have covered 44% of the country's territory, with the Croat canton covering the remaining 12%.[3] On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.[4][5] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_and_during_the_Bosnian_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_... Ukranians should take note that the Bosniak side came out even worse after that war, while the Serbian side today controls half of the country in a defacto almost independent state
  - The_Colonel 2y ago
    > i hate war and especially conscription. and super especially a pointless war that destroys the whole country and sets it back for generations to come. Good, I must assume then that you hate Putin for starting war, killing and bombing Ukrainians and surely campaign for Putin to pull back to the internationally recognized Russia borders, right?
    - medo-bear 2y ago
      correct but since we live on the same planet at the same time i demand for ukraine to never join nato or any other armed alliance, for ukraine to outlaw bandera nazis, for palestine and israel to be one democratic state of equal citizens regardless of ethnicity within historic palestine, for kosovo to be recognised again by the us and satelites as part of serbia (like ukraine does) etc
  - aguaviva 2y ago
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    - medo-bear 2y ago
      oh boy you want to sound confident but really you have no idea what you are talking about. lol at the sds snipers being cause of war. war in yugoslavia was already one year in by the time it started happening in bosnia. for objectivity reasons when talking about catalysts for the war you should also read about the wedding attack in sarajavo that happened several weeks prior to the sniper event. anyway if you are ukranian, pray that the peace agreement your country signs doesnt result in a type of governing system that bosnia has https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo_wedding_attack https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo_wedding_attack
      - aguaviva 2y ago
        Obviously it was the Bosnian-Serb phase of the conflict, aka "The Bosnian War" I was referring to. Which is generally considered to have started with the events of April 5th-6th. If you are ukranian, pray that ... Telling people what to think, based on where you think they are from. How delightfully imperial of you.

People of Ukraine should not be forced to fight by their government. Simple

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The_Colonel 2y ago

I assume you protested the 2022 Russian mobilization as well?

medo-bear 2y ago
completely opposed to it, yes. im an ex refugee. i hate war and especially conscription. and super especially a pointless war that destroys the whole country and sets it back for generations to come. ive also seen what western interefernce looks like when the west wants there to be a war. for example compare this to boris johnson torpedoing the peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine in 2022 On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. The plan had assigned each of the 109 municipalities to be divided amongst the three ethnic sides. The allocation of the municipalities was mostly based off the results of the 1991 population census that was completed a year before the signing of the agreement. The agreement had stipulated that the Bosniak and Serb cantons would each have covered 44% of the country's territory, with the Croat canton covering the remaining 12%.[3] On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.[4][5] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_and_during_the_Bosnian_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_... Ukranians should take note that the Bosniak side came out even worse after that war, while the Serbian side today controls half of the country in a defacto almost independent state
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  > i hate war and especially conscription. and super especially a pointless war that destroys the whole country and sets it back for generations to come. Good, I must assume then that you hate Putin for starting war, killing and bombing Ukrainians and surely campaign for Putin to pull back to the internationally recognized Russia borders, right?
  - medo-bear 2y ago
    correct but since we live on the same planet at the same time i demand for ukraine to never join nato or any other armed alliance, for ukraine to outlaw bandera nazis, for palestine and israel to be one democratic state of equal citizens regardless of ethnicity within historic palestine, for kosovo to be recognised again by the us and satelites as part of serbia (like ukraine does) etc
- aguaviva 2y ago
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  - medo-bear 2y ago
    oh boy you want to sound confident but really you have no idea what you are talking about. lol at the sds snipers being cause of war. war in yugoslavia was already one year in by the time it started happening in bosnia. for objectivity reasons when talking about catalysts for the war you should also read about the wedding attack in sarajavo that happened several weeks prior to the sniper event. anyway if you are ukranian, pray that the peace agreement your country signs doesnt result in a type of governing system that bosnia has https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo_wedding_attack https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo_wedding_attack
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      Obviously it was the Bosnian-Serb phase of the conflict, aka "The Bosnian War" I was referring to. Which is generally considered to have started with the events of April 5th-6th. If you are ukranian, pray that ... Telling people what to think, based on where you think they are from. How delightfully imperial of you.