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That's a windows-ism, we don't like that kind of stuff. Not on any other OS we don't.

by godDLL 2y ago

freedomben 2y ago
Parent is not wrong, but definitely could have some improved manners and tact. As a linux user I wanted to make sure to say thank you for supporting and thinking about linux!
- santoshalper 2y ago
  Actually, parent is wrong. You're not supposed to do that shit on Windows either. That's what AppData is for. Writing configuration files and folders to "Documents" or the user's home folder is sloppy shit.
  - sunshowers 2y ago
    I agree that this should be in the XDG directory or AppData, but be kind, y'all -- this is open source, it is a gift someone has labored over and given you. There are much nicer ways to suggest improvements than calling it "sloppy shit". edit: it's not actually open source by the OSI definition it seems [1], but it is reasonably close. [1] https://futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/ https://futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/
    - StrangeDoctor 2y ago
      Sure, things can always have gone better, but this is data loss/corruption territory. It's asking for trouble and hurt feelings. I think a strong response is ok.
- Teever 2y ago
  What exactly is wrong with how they expressed themselves? Is the word "hate" really so odious?
  - bisby 2y ago
    I was very blunt and impersonal. People worked hard on a thing and my first reaction was criticism, without even the added overall view of "I love this thing, but here is a small thing that bothers me." I could have been more courteous and human about things. I stand by the points I made, but I could have been friendlier. I normally make an effort to be friendly as I can about things, but I absolutely did not here. I hope that nothing I said came across as vitriol, but rather, valid criticism. I'm a strong believer in criticizing the things you love, but I need to remember that random comments on HN aren't the place where people know I love the thing, and my criticism needs context. So no, it wasn't really that odious, but it was other things. Do I feel stricken with guilt or remorse about what I said? No. Could I have been friendlier? yes. Should I have been friendlier? Probably.
    - acjohnson55 2y ago
      I appreciate the reflection here.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >Parent is not wrong, but definitely could have some improved manners and tact. I don't understand the weird tone policing that people are trying to do, there is literally nothing wrong with the parent's comment and pretending otherwise is weird.
  - gtsop 2y ago
    I didn't see it as tone policing. From my point of view, I saw a very interesting application being shared and I hoped it would be good and prosperous so i can use it. When the first comment says "i hate that you do X" it is a bit discouraging towards a team of developers who have probably poured tons of free hours into making this. Words play with psychology, and it is my personal interest that these devs have good morale to make this app great, and that meand giving them feedback about obvious mistakes in a tone that does not hurt this morale. I hope that make sense
    - Suppafly 2y ago
      "i hate that you do x" is perfectly normal, you're being weird.
      - braiamp 2y ago
        And that's not even the words used, they said: > I absolutely hate <stuff that does X> like this
        bisby 2y ago
        That's not even the words I used either. > I absolutely hate having stuff automatically create anything in my home directory like this. Which is > I absolutely hate <action> like this Which is not > I absolutely hate <thing that does action> like this I quite like grayjay. I just dislike this one thing it does.
      - nozzlegear 2y ago
        Taking "I hate that you do x" as a combative or rude dismissal is perfectly normal too.
indrora 2y ago
Even Windows has %appdata% which is where you put stuff on disk that you need to stash away. There's also function calls iirc which will give you a handle to a temporary file if you need it.
- LeonB 2y ago
  And if you’re feeling particularly Sadomasochistic there’s always the Windows Registry.
  - chupasaurus 2y ago
    Hey, that's NSFW content on HN! Also I still find it funny that OpenSSH client shipped via feature uses %HOMEDIR%\.ssh

That's a windows-ism, we don't like that kind of stuff. Not on any other OS we don't.

by godDLL 2y ago

That's a windows-ism, we don't like that kind of stuff. Not on any other OS we don't.

Parent is not wrong, but definitely could have some improved manners and tact. As a linux user I wanted to make sure to say thank you for supporting and thinking about linux!

santoshalper 2y ago
Actually, parent is wrong. You're not supposed to do that shit on Windows either. That's what AppData is for. Writing configuration files and folders to "Documents" or the user's home folder is sloppy shit.
- sunshowers 2y ago
  I agree that this should be in the XDG directory or AppData, but be kind, y'all -- this is open source, it is a gift someone has labored over and given you. There are much nicer ways to suggest improvements than calling it "sloppy shit". edit: it's not actually open source by the OSI definition it seems [1], but it is reasonably close. [1] https://futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/ https://futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/
  - StrangeDoctor 2y ago
    Sure, things can always have gone better, but this is data loss/corruption territory. It's asking for trouble and hurt feelings. I think a strong response is ok.
Teever 2y ago
What exactly is wrong with how they expressed themselves? Is the word "hate" really so odious?
- bisby 2y ago
  I was very blunt and impersonal. People worked hard on a thing and my first reaction was criticism, without even the added overall view of "I love this thing, but here is a small thing that bothers me." I could have been more courteous and human about things. I stand by the points I made, but I could have been friendlier. I normally make an effort to be friendly as I can about things, but I absolutely did not here. I hope that nothing I said came across as vitriol, but rather, valid criticism. I'm a strong believer in criticizing the things you love, but I need to remember that random comments on HN aren't the place where people know I love the thing, and my criticism needs context. So no, it wasn't really that odious, but it was other things. Do I feel stricken with guilt or remorse about what I said? No. Could I have been friendlier? yes. Should I have been friendlier? Probably.
  - acjohnson55 2y ago
    I appreciate the reflection here.
Suppafly 2y ago
>Parent is not wrong, but definitely could have some improved manners and tact. I don't understand the weird tone policing that people are trying to do, there is literally nothing wrong with the parent's comment and pretending otherwise is weird.
- gtsop 2y ago
  I didn't see it as tone policing. From my point of view, I saw a very interesting application being shared and I hoped it would be good and prosperous so i can use it. When the first comment says "i hate that you do X" it is a bit discouraging towards a team of developers who have probably poured tons of free hours into making this. Words play with psychology, and it is my personal interest that these devs have good morale to make this app great, and that meand giving them feedback about obvious mistakes in a tone that does not hurt this morale. I hope that make sense
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    "i hate that you do x" is perfectly normal, you're being weird.
    - braiamp 2y ago
      And that's not even the words used, they said: > I absolutely hate <stuff that does X> like this
      - bisby 2y ago
        That's not even the words I used either. > I absolutely hate having stuff automatically create anything in my home directory like this. Which is > I absolutely hate <action> like this Which is not > I absolutely hate <thing that does action> like this I quite like grayjay. I just dislike this one thing it does.
    - nozzlegear 2y ago
      Taking "I hate that you do x" as a combative or rude dismissal is perfectly normal too.

indrora 2y ago

Even Windows has %appdata% which is where you put stuff on disk that you need to stash away. There's also function calls iirc which will give you a handle to a temporary file if you need it.

LeonB 2y ago
And if you’re feeling particularly Sadomasochistic there’s always the Windows Registry.
- chupasaurus 2y ago
  Hey, that's NSFW content on HN! Also I still find it funny that OpenSSH client shipped via feature uses %HOMEDIR%\.ssh