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Israel hasn't been an occupying force. They left Gaza in 2005. Palestinians decided to spend their time preparing for terrorist attacks against Israel.

throw310822 2y ago
If they left Gaza in 2005, how come that that they always controlled water, electricity, movement of people, air space, sea space, and all resources access? The international community regarded Gaza as always under occupation. You can have your own (unqualified) opinions about this; that judgement is a fact.
- bufferoverflow 2y ago
  You mean they supplied water and electricity to Gaza, even though they didn't have to.
maeil 2y ago
Palestine doesn't just consist of Gaza, doing so is playing a bad faith word trick. I can't imagine you're unfamiliar with the continuous annexations and illegal settlements in the West Bank, along with the continuous razing of Palestinian buildings there. If not, you're one of today's lucky 10,000. Here's a basic introduction [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
dragonwriter 2y ago
> Israel hasn't been an occupying force. Israel has indisputably been an occupying force in Palestine continuously since 1967, at the latest. > They left Gaza in 2005. They did not stop exerting control of Gaza at any point, continuing to regularly murder unarmed civilians within Gaza, without provocation, control its waters, and otherwise exercise dominion even after their tactical redeployment. Not that even if they had withdrawn from that part of Palestine it would change that they were occupying Palestine.
aguaviva 2y ago
Israel hasn't been an occupying force. They left Gaza in 2005. That's the narrative that the State of Israel promotes. But as with many things it says, it is wildly disconnected from reality. Israel never fully "left" Gaza. It pulled its settlements and internal troop deployments, but still maintained control of the Strip's borders, martime access and air space. And continued to bomb and invade sporadically ("mowing the lawn"), according its whimsy and pleasure. That's why it still considered to be under Israeli occupation according to UN statutes. Palestinians decided to spend their time preparing for terrorist attacks against Israel. Some did, the vast majority did not but were retaliated against anyway.

throw310822 2y ago

If they left Gaza in 2005, how come that that they always controlled water, electricity, movement of people, air space, sea space, and all resources access? The international community regarded Gaza as always under occupation. You can have your own (unqualified) opinions about this; that judgement is a fact.

bufferoverflow 2y ago
You mean they supplied water and electricity to Gaza, even though they didn't have to.

maeil 2y ago

Palestine doesn't just consist of Gaza, doing so is playing a bad faith word trick. I can't imagine you're unfamiliar with the continuous annexations and illegal settlements in the West Bank, along with the continuous razing of Palestinian buildings there. If not, you're one of today's lucky 10,000. Here's a basic introduction [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

dragonwriter 2y ago

> Israel hasn't been an occupying force. Israel has indisputably been an occupying force in Palestine continuously since 1967, at the latest. > They left Gaza in 2005. They did not stop exerting control of Gaza at any point, continuing to regularly murder unarmed civilians within Gaza, without provocation, control its waters, and otherwise exercise dominion even after their tactical redeployment. Not that even if they had withdrawn from that part of Palestine it would change that they were occupying Palestine.

aguaviva 2y ago

Israel hasn't been an occupying force. They left Gaza in 2005. That's the narrative that the State of Israel promotes. But as with many things it says, it is wildly disconnected from reality. Israel never fully "left" Gaza. It pulled its settlements and internal troop deployments, but still maintained control of the Strip's borders, martime access and air space. And continued to bomb and invade sporadically ("mowing the lawn"), according its whimsy and pleasure. That's why it still considered to be under Israeli occupation according to UN statutes. Palestinians decided to spend their time preparing for terrorist attacks against Israel. Some did, the vast majority did not but were retaliated against anyway.