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Waymo is doing alright in San Francisco as well. That's not directly comparable to Tokyo, either, but I expect it's a much less distant of a comparison than Ph

Waymo is doing alright in San Francisco as well. That's not directly comparable to Tokyo, either, but I expect it's a much less distant of a comparison than Phoenix.

nixpulvis 2y ago
I saw a video of a bunch of Waymos backed up on each other being too hesitant to make a turn. Kinda reinforced a fear I have of these things. Not to mention I would hate to try and wave one of these things to turn before me... or wink my headlights. IDK, like I get the appeal for driverless cars, I just still don't like them.
- cadamsau 2y ago
  Seeing something once doesn’t make it a real phenomenon. Besides, if that is common, Waymo will have data on it and if it’s common enough, they’ll fix it. I’ve sat in Waymos on 2 occasions, each on a separate ride, in which the car avoided collisions that would have happened due to bad human drivers. Your fear is worth examining closely as it’ll hold you back from enjoying this amazing technology.
  - nmstoker 2y ago
    I think you may mean something other than phenomenon ("an observable fact or event"). Seeing anything more than zero times makes it a phenomenon by definition.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  That… doesn’t sound like such a bad thing to me. I’d rather have my driverless car hesitate (in a safe location) than be too agressive.
  - nixpulvis 2y ago
    Can't wait to get locked in a waymo in a bad part of town.
KennyBlanken 2y ago
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- boulos 2y ago
  You're confusing us with Cruise. Lots of reporting did the same, but we're expanding a lot across California. For example, now anyone can use our service in Los Angeles: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-angeles https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-...
  - KennyBlanken 2y ago
    https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-ban-robotaxi-b2500697.html https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-b... > One of the world’s first fully-driverless taxi firms has been blocked from expanding its business in California, where several of its vehicles have recently been involved in accidents. > Waymo, which is the driverless car division of Google parent Alphabet, currently operates in parts of San Francisco. Attempts to roll-out its robotaxi service to Sunnyvale and Los Angeles were suspended for up to 120 days following a ruling by the California Public Utilities Commission’s Consumer Protection and Enforcement Division (CPED). Then there's the federal investigation for Arizona crashes: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight-incidents-involving-waymo-driverless-cars-phoenix-chandler/ https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight... Your cars honking at each other in their own parking lot, at 4AM: https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 Your cars getting confused by a traffic cone: https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 Your cars barely able to make a lane change under the most ideal circumstances: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 Unable to respond to the instructions of a police officer and it taking a minute and a half for employees to manually control the car: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs Blocking a fire truck: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 Breaking the law and getting pulled over by police for driving in the oncoming lane: https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 One of your cars cutting off another one of your own cars in a wildly unsafe, illegal maneuver: One of your cars running a red light: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 ...and then a few minutes later, illegally entering an intersection and stopping, then continuing to block the intersection because someone made a u-turn 30 feet in front of it while it was stopped: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 And here's the icing on the cake: your company harassing reporters, calling the police on them because reporters were following it: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170
bobthepanda 2y ago
In SF you still have clearly delineated sidewalks with curbs and crossing lights. Japanese side streets are basically equivalent to alleys and cars are guests. There aren’t too many streets like that in the US at all.

Waymo is doing alright in San Francisco as well. That's not directly comparable to Tokyo, either, but I expect it's a much less distant of a comparison than Phoenix.

nixpulvis 2y ago

I saw a video of a bunch of Waymos backed up on each other being too hesitant to make a turn. Kinda reinforced a fear I have of these things. Not to mention I would hate to try and wave one of these things to turn before me... or wink my headlights. IDK, like I get the appeal for driverless cars, I just still don't like them.

cadamsau 2y ago
Seeing something once doesn’t make it a real phenomenon. Besides, if that is common, Waymo will have data on it and if it’s common enough, they’ll fix it. I’ve sat in Waymos on 2 occasions, each on a separate ride, in which the car avoided collisions that would have happened due to bad human drivers. Your fear is worth examining closely as it’ll hold you back from enjoying this amazing technology.
- nmstoker 2y ago
  I think you may mean something other than phenomenon ("an observable fact or event"). Seeing anything more than zero times makes it a phenomenon by definition.
Aeolun 2y ago
That… doesn’t sound like such a bad thing to me. I’d rather have my driverless car hesitate (in a safe location) than be too agressive.
- nixpulvis 2y ago
  Can't wait to get locked in a waymo in a bad part of town.

KennyBlanken 2y ago

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boulos 2y ago
You're confusing us with Cruise. Lots of reporting did the same, but we're expanding a lot across California. For example, now anyone can use our service in Los Angeles: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-angeles https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-...
- KennyBlanken 2y ago
  https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-ban-robotaxi-b2500697.html https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-b... > One of the world’s first fully-driverless taxi firms has been blocked from expanding its business in California, where several of its vehicles have recently been involved in accidents. > Waymo, which is the driverless car division of Google parent Alphabet, currently operates in parts of San Francisco. Attempts to roll-out its robotaxi service to Sunnyvale and Los Angeles were suspended for up to 120 days following a ruling by the California Public Utilities Commission’s Consumer Protection and Enforcement Division (CPED). Then there's the federal investigation for Arizona crashes: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight-incidents-involving-waymo-driverless-cars-phoenix-chandler/ https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight... Your cars honking at each other in their own parking lot, at 4AM: https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 Your cars getting confused by a traffic cone: https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 Your cars barely able to make a lane change under the most ideal circumstances: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 Unable to respond to the instructions of a police officer and it taking a minute and a half for employees to manually control the car: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs Blocking a fire truck: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 Breaking the law and getting pulled over by police for driving in the oncoming lane: https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 One of your cars cutting off another one of your own cars in a wildly unsafe, illegal maneuver: One of your cars running a red light: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 ...and then a few minutes later, illegally entering an intersection and stopping, then continuing to block the intersection because someone made a u-turn 30 feet in front of it while it was stopped: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 And here's the icing on the cake: your company harassing reporters, calling the police on them because reporters were following it: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170

bobthepanda 2y ago

In SF you still have clearly delineated sidewalks with curbs and crossing lights. Japanese side streets are basically equivalent to alleys and cars are guests. There aren’t too many streets like that in the US at all.