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My guess is he was referring to financial predators. Greed and lust rather than wrath.

• tines 2y ago
  No, he's saying that predators tell their prey not to fight back.
  • vouaobrasil 2y ago
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    • tines 2y ago
      I don't think this is true. How many popular movies are war movies where the heroes are most certainly not pacifists? Even the movie starring a real-life pacifist (Hacksaw Ridge) is about how he, too, fit into the war machine.
      • vouaobrasil 2y ago
        First, I meant pacifism is promoted as the only recourse for the general citizen, not for the government. Of course, war movies promote the acceptability of violence by the state. Two totally separate phenomena. The state promotes violence by the state, and being docile for the citizen.
        • tines 2y ago
          Ok, but the word pacifism means something specific. I agree with your statement about docility, I think many would call it "civility." Same thing that black people were accused of, being "uncivil," when they were rioting for civil rights.
          • vouaobrasil 2y ago
            That is true. It's an important definition distinction.
        • munificent 2y ago
          > I meant pacifism is promoted as the only recourse for the general citizen What media are you consuming? Take a look at any list of top-grossing films of the past few decades and it's riddled with non-state lone wolf actors using violence to solve their problems. You're saying that John Wick, Creed, Spider-Man, The Fall Guy, Furiosa, Venom, etc. are teaching Americans to be pacifists?
          • tines 2y ago
            This misunderstanding was already solved in a sibling comment.
          • vouaobrasil 2y ago
            Of course. Movies are an outlet to let off steam. We experience the violence in the theatre that is increasingly precisely because the pacified masses need a strong outlet to escape the lack of recourse for injustice in the real world.
            • throw310822 2y ago
              This is a good explanation without supporting the idea that there is no propaganda of violence. There is. And btw, the US are one of the most violent advanced countries.
              • vouaobrasil 2y ago
                Only because the violence is a side effect of having fairly unregulated capitalism. But eventually the system will stop that.
            • munificent 2y ago
              You're moving the goal posts. First you said that "pacifism is heavily promoted in mainstream media". When I pointed out that American mainstream media is absolutely riddled with "non-state invidualist hero uses personal violence to solve their problems", now you claim that the media is for "letting off steam".
    • JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > why pacifism is heavily promoted in mainstream media and society Yes, America's problem is it's just too peaceful, at home and abroad. Like, it's a neat hypothesis. The data just don't fit, certainly not for America. We have high rates of gun ownership and gun violence (as well as other violence, e.g. at bars and schoolyards) precisely because we like taking justice into our own hands.